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The Texas Supreme Court on Friday rejected a closely watched challenge to the state’s restrictive abortion ban, ruling against a group of women who had serious pregnancy complications and became the first in the U.S. to testify in court about being denied abortions since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

In a unanimous ruling, the all-Republican court upheld the Texas law that opponents say is too vague when it comes to when medically necessary exceptions are allowed. The same issue was at the center of a separate lawsuit brought last year by Kate Cox, a mother of two from Dallas, who sought court permission to obtain an abortion after her fetus developed a fatal condition during a pregnancy that resulted in multiple trips to an emergency room.

Abortion rights activists have struggled to stem the tide of restrictions that have taken effect in most Republican-led states since the U.S. Supreme Court in 2022 overturned Roe vs Wade, which for nearly 50 years had affirmed the constitutional right to an abortion. 

The court said the law’s exceptions, as written, are broad enough and that doctors would be misinterpreting the law if they declined to perform an abortion when the mother’s life is in danger.

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[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 109 points 1 month ago

"Texas law permits a life-saving abortion,” the court wrote in the order signed by Justice Jane Bland.

Under the law in Texas, doctors who perform abortions risk life in prison, fines of up to $100,000 and revocation of their state medical licenses.

Hmmmm

It's hard for me to choose the more likely theory:

(1) That these judges are so deluded that they think this is reasonable; or (2) That these judges are making the argument that it's possible to get an abortion in bad faith because that means justifies the end of keeping a law on the books that prevents effectively all abortions.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 35 points 1 month ago

Stupid or malicious. I trend towards malicious these days. Too much info to be that stupid that often.

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Or they’re interpreting the law as written without context so they can get home by lunch, just like every other originalist.

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[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 month ago

That's kinda the point - Texas permits a life-saving abortion, but is super vague as to what counts as "life-saving" and if it's not life-saving **enough ** then comes the extreme punishment.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

The doctor has to do it just right. Otherwise straight to jail - Texas Supreme Court, probably

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Under the law in Texas, doctors who perform abortions risk life in prison, fines of up to $100,000 and revocation of their state medical licenses.

This is excessive. Way too much. Cruel and unusual punishment is against the US constitution.

Seriously, just consider the following from bad evil theocratic authoritarian Saudi Arabia:

Expat doctor, nurse arrested in Saudi Arabia over unsafe abortions

The Ministry of Health in Riyadh referred the two medical professionals to the public prosecutor, and they face imprisonment for up to six months and a fine of up to $26,000 (100,000 riyals).

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago

Holy shitsnacks does that ever put America's fascist back-slide in focus.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago

It permits it then almost immediately punishes the Dr who saved a life. Just conservative things

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 66 points 1 month ago

Why the fuck do people still live in texas?

[-] muse@fedia.io 57 points 1 month ago

Poverty, abusive living situations, lack of options.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

My girlfriend and I were in poverty living in Florida 8 years ago- both on minimum wage. We managed to move to Seattle. Aside from situations beyond one’s control, I assure you it’s VERY possible.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

This entirely survivorship bias. And beside that, why SHOULD we have to leave? This is my fucking state too. Born and raised here, family history here. Why should I have to give all that up because some dipshit Republicans want to turn us into a shithole.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because sometimes- things aren’t worth saving. I bailed on Florida when Florida bailed on:

• LGBTQ+

• women

•education

• living wages

• mental health

• gun control

• common sense

• humanity

I couldn’t help feeling like sticking around was essentially supporting everything I stand adamantly against. Now- not a single penny of mine is paid for bigots to hurt people any more.

And I sleep so much better for it.

[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Life is way too short. You made the right call for yourself and there's nothing wrong with that.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

well it's not that they want to turn it into a shithole, it's that they did turn it into a shithole decades ago and it's getting worse.

but i agree that the previous comment is survivorship bias and anyone thinking that just moving out of a state is easy has not really thought about much at all.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Aside from situations beyond one’s control

This is not as clearly defined and narrow as you’re making it out to be. This can also include economic hardship.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

It’s not as broad and across the board either. There’s nuance to everthing. I’m not suggesting it’s possible for everyone. My original question wasn’t to be taken literally. It was just exasperation and frustration over the situation

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

I was raised here. Now, after over 40 years of living here, I am finally leaving this summer. Fuck this entire fucking state. I'll watch the flames of Texas from the comfort of the Pacific Northwest. Good god damned riddance.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

I feel the same about Florida. Lived there for almost 40 years.

[-] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Welcome, life is good here. Stay the hell out of ID though - it might give you flashbacks.

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

"Pacific" Northwest. I have zero interest in Bigoted Inland Bumfuck Northwest.

[-] seth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

There's the rub. The outdoors and land in BIBN are beautiful and inexpensive but you have the local ~~wildlife~~ bigotry to contend with.

Because the only way to change it is from within. If every blue vote leaves, then things will get much worse, much faster.

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[-] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

I don't have enough money to move somewhere with schools that don't suck

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

We didn’t either. But we saved for a few years, and found a cheap place to gain a foothold until we could do better for ourselves. Schools in Washington aren’t too bad.

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[-] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

I wonder what Texas will do when all the doctors leave to work in states that won't arrest them for saving lives.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Complain harder about woke ideologue as they blame liberals for shunning their perfect state.

I say this as a recent transplant out of spending almost 2 decades in Texas.

Couldn't get out of there soon enough. So happy we left.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Where'd you go instead? Also looking to move elsewhere as my home state slides further into theocratic hell

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

We're up in Colorado, near the Denver area now. Much, much, much, much better. This state isn't batshit insane.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

What is the punishment for a doctor performing an illegal abortion in Texas?

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 month ago

Texas doctors face harsh penalties for performing an abortion that does not meet the criteria for a medical exception — fines of at least $100,000 and up to 99 years in prison.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-supreme-court-ruling-abortion-ban/

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[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

Being forced to live in Texas.

[-] match@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago

some dudebro will make an app for crowdsourced "Health Experts" who look you over briefly and then prescribe opiates. it will cost $300 out of pocket and AI will be involved somehow

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

some dudebro will make an app for crowdsourced "Health Experts" who look you over briefly and then prescribe opiates.

"Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded. What I'd do, is just like... like... you know, like, you know" what I mean, like...

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

I again would request for all the big big Texas pussy to shut down until the law is aborted. Can't have pussy if you're not going to take care of it.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago
[-] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago

I am eternally grateful to have escaped Texas, the way they are treating women is utterly unconscionable.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Get ready, America. Van loads of morality police beating women on the street for not dressing conservatively are in your future.

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Faux News has been warning us about religious law being enforced in our communities for decades. They just had a typo in which religion it was.

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[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

I think Biden could win Texas

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Really depends if my fellow Texas men actually love their wives or not. I'm not quite sure that they do...

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Conservative women hate women just as much as the men do, that's the impressive bit.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

They can definitely have the whole "I got mine" ideology down like bedrock in their souls.

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[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

They absolutely completely love the mothers of their children. And they promise to take extra special care of them and make the best decisions for their family. 🤮

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

It could happen if we could get more people to the polls.

In 2020, there were 21.5 million people in the voting age population, of which 16.95 million were registered to vote, and of those 11.3 million cast a vote. Of the votes, Trump receuved 5,890,347 votes and Biden received 5,259,126.

Hopefully we will have even better turnout this Oct/Nov. We were the first state to have an in-person early voting period and unfortunately, over 40 years later, isn't well-utilized.

For those in TX, the last day to register to vote is Oct 7.

Voting goes from October 21-Nov 1, with one final day to cast your vote on Nov 5.

Applications to vote by mail must be received by Oct 25.

Check your registration status, local polling locations and hours, important dates, and other election information at the link below.

https://www.votetexas.gov/mobile/index.htm

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago

Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, had an interesting article about abortion laws in some US states and how they compare back in 2019 before Roe v. Wade was repealed. Alabama, Iran, or Saudi Arabia? We Checked Where Abortion Laws Are Better for Women

[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

To no one's surprise, and the shame of all.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Then texas should pay for the funerals

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