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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 85 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Rich people get Ozempic. Everyone else gets body positivity.

paraphrased from South Park

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Body positivity AND Lizzo*

[–] Seraph@fedia.io 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I like Jon but this must have been a joke it's too ridiculous.

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago

The whole book is a joke.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's satire. Which is worse because satire either is true or has the potential to become true.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You didn't notice it already happened?

Look at Instagram beauty. The definition of a big bootie/phat ass has really changed in the past 20 years.

Fat-shaming is a thing; had Stewart's book been published today, it'd be skewered on talk shows for this one joke being fat-shaming.

We may not be there yet, but around the time All About That Bass came out, normalizing obesity started gaining mainstream support. Despite clear evidence that it shortens life expectancy and is considered a co-morbidity for any medical condition, American society is overriding the medical community in telling people "it's OK to be fat," and worse, calling any other messaging "fat shaming."

It's already happened. You just didn't notice because the Kardashians distracted everyone.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't use Instagram because I don't hate myself. But trust me, I noticed.

My dad almost died at the age I am now because he insisted on eating Mac & Cheese five times a week. Scared him straight, thankfully. Blows me away every time I see him now because he's a toothpick compared to what I saw growing up.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago

Well, me neither, but it leaks out.

Good to hear about your dad, though. Late is better than never.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

This was a decade before all about that bass, the healthy at any size nonsense, etc. Either way, it really is unfortunate that we've gone from "you shouldn't be shitty to people because they're fat" to "being obese is something to be celebrated."

[–] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

People aren't celebrating being obese. They're celebrating being themselves and accepting that they're more than their body. They're also saying that it's possible to be beautiful and desirable even if you're overweight.

Fat shaming doesn't work. People don't always try to improve themselves when they feel like they're worthless. Sometimes they do, and you'll always see some ex-fat person in the comments saying how they needed the shame to improve, but the data doesn't really support that position.

I just want people to be able to be happy. I want people to be treated like humans regardless of their looks and weight. That's the goal of most of these *movements."

Also... While some extra crazy people out exist that claim that it's healthy to never move and be over 300 pounds, those people are often cherry picked and used as examples of cultural downfall, even when they're the minority.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Great response, I’d just like to add: almost everybody does something unhealthy. I’m sure they wouldn’t want to be shamed and insulted for it by random people on the internet. You can believe that being overweight is unhealthy while still being accepting of others.

It’s like religion: Keep your mouth shut if you don’t have anything positive to say.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I apologize if I wasn't clear in my statement. I was not supporting shaming fat people. As someone who is, once again, overweight, I know they are well aware. I am, however, opposed to those who state that you can be healthy and obese, as the evidence does not support it. Also, no one is owed to be found attractive by others. The greater your weight deviates from healthy, the lower your pool of potential partners. People need to accept the realities, not expect others to indulge in fantasies. That was all I was trying to convey in short hand. I still think all people should be treated with respect, and it isn't anyone's job, except maybe a medical professional, to point out someone's weight to them.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

And All About That Bass was released a decade ago this year! So Stewart's book was 20 years ago. Sweet.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Reminder then trump being president was once a Simpsons joke.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the future, you will want to "tap" this.

Riiiight, in the future. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

2015 is around the time the term thic went mainstream, and white women started focusing on growing their asses big for some reason.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

You are way off on that date. You can trace the change in attitude towards asses to the Jennifer Lopez panty photo. (Vogue IIRC)

EDIT: It was Vanity Fair in 1998.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-j-los-ass-changed-the_b_586226

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just wait until you learn what the term "Rubinesque" means, and that it dates back to the 1600s....

...but that wasn't really the topic, and I never said this trend hadn't happened before.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think this argument should stop - it's hammer time! :)

Edit: I would explain my stupid reference - I'm an MC Hammer fan, and I cannot lie...

Edit: I could swear MC Hammer at least covered the song once, but I guess I just mixed up the artists.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you confusing Sir Mix-a-lot with MC Hammer?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure who this Sir Mix A Lot is, but does he love big butts?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Jennifer Lopez isn't a white woman.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No but Marilyn Monroe started the hourglass figure trend before JLo

Edit this list is pretty great about naming curvy women thru American pop culture https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/g6376/best-celebrity-hourglass-bodies/

It’s missing pics from what I can tell on my phone.

I think most people are talking about figures like these when they’re saying gyatt and what not

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, anyone with good taste has preferred women with a booty since way before the late 90s

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

As with most things in "mainstream" American culture, that was the case for the majority of minority cultures in the US. It just takes a while until the majority catches up.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish that was true as a whole, but no. Sure, there were those that knew a good thing when they saw it, but overall the sentiment towards curves through the eighties was not positive, hence 1992's Baby Got Back. "Oh, my, god. Look at her butt." The shift really took hold with that J.Lo Vanity Fair shoot and everyone thirsting like crazy.

I will go as far as saying that J.Lo and Ricky Martin also kicked off a huge interest/acceptance in latin people in popular culture.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What about Queen and Spinal Tap?

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I don't think Freddie Mercury was into the type of women he was singing about.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Kinda crazy how beauty standards are promoted. Like that beauty pageant in Virginia.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What year did Victoria's Secret start featuring large women?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tried googling it and it looks like 2019.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Off by 4 years isn't bad for a future prediction.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org -4 points 3 months ago

O-Oh-Oh It's Lizzo!