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And we shouldn't allow this concept to go unchallenged here on Lemmy.

Commenting on an active post is not brigading

Posting a link to something is not brigading

Commenting on something you were linked to is not brigading

The only thing that might be brigading, but isn't because it isn't a real thing, is someone explicitly going, "Hey everyone, go here and harass this person"

It's all fine and good that we have some new rules to keep the peace with other instances but we must fight against reddit-logo brainworms

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[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Collective action is invalid, everyone must act as individual monads.

[–] hes_fired@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

As someone who is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors, what's the problem?

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think there's probably a good argument for not going easy on liberalism, ever, because if the roles were reversed they would not give us any room to grow and they would not hesitate. I think there's probably a fine line between showing no mercy and coming across as toxic and giving them an excuse to defederate so no idea what the right call is tbh shrug-outta-hecks

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror."

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

[Hexbear is one of the more active instances in the lemmyverse]
Our turn has finally come comrades!
lets-fucking-go

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

spongebob-i-fucking-love uSe A nOn-PaRtiCiPaTiOn LiNk wHeN lInKiNg A tHrEaD fRoM aNoThEr SuBrEdDiT

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

They will cry out to me not to participate... and I will say... "No"

soviet-chad

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Just post a screenshot of the thread on top of your active feed next time someone accuses us of brigading

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

i press all i press active yep it's brigading time fidel-cool

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no more half measures walter

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

no more half measured water

[–] Melonius@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I saw so many bad faith trolls saying they'd block this instance. Would love to keep track of them and toss that quote back at them when they're still repeating their shit takes if the feature ever becomes available.

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it already is wit some apps or a ublock rule. most won't do it tho

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[–] flan@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

posting links is how the world wide web works

http is hypertext transport protocol

what is hypertext?

hypertext is text with hyperlinks to other hypertext.

Got a problem with hyperlinks? Well get off the world wide web and go be a magazine or some shit.

[–] raven@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or just say "Hey hexbear please don't participate in this post" and we respect that request and don't shrug-outta-hecks

[–] flan@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] raven@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

We shouldn't, I'm just pointing out that when we have been asked not to participate, we haven't.

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I fuck around: sleepi

I find out: kitty-cri-screm

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Another part that adds to this notion is that libs generally only encounter crudeness from literal children or right wingers.

They think the real world politics is some West Wing-ian paradise of polite discussions and good faith arguments. Only MAGAs resort to ad hominem, ofc, Donald Trump is bad partly because of bad policies but mainly because he's crude! Good Republicans are polite and also want what's good for the country, they just disagree on methods!

This probably stems from anti-civil rights movements saying the blacks are impolite or crude when demanding basic human decency.

Also historically untrue, on at least one occasion, Abe Lincoln bullied an opponent to tears with ad hominem attacks.

Either way, they fully buy into the scam that politeness and taking the high road will win the day except the part where liberalism has been in decay for decades due to what basically amounts to stomping your feet at conservatives every time they slide into fascism.

And they keep doing it, Sisyphus with the rock, Charlie Brown with the ball, libs with politeness. Guess what? Not disrupting evil in any meaningful way means they get to continue to make things worse and get away with it.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

This probably stems from anti-civil rights movements saying the blacks are impolite or crude when demanding basic human decency.

Likely, and even before that. Using clothes, language, hairstyles, accent, pronunciation to separate the "good" people from teh "bad" people goes back to forever. That's a big part of how Hexbear even happened; Verbal vulgarity and insults and cruelty that was appropriate to the lies, deception, and normalization of horror coming from the Democrats. "We're going to talk to you with the level of consideration and politeness you deserve, which is none you fucking monsters".

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

on at least one occasion, Abe Lincoln bullied an opponent to tears with ad hominem attacks.

This might sound a little debate-me-debate-me but in highschool my history class had a facebook group for discussing the politics that came up from the readings and discussions for us to turn into essay bits and junk. We had a conservative weenie in there and while I was very far from being a raging communist or even a socialist the both of us got into it about healthcare laws and other bullshit which eventually just turned into me berating him for just straight up lying about the laws and policies, the fact that he read the entire obamacare law (LOL). Everyone fucking hated all of his shit I got so much praise from everyone in that group, including my future girlfriend. The only time debate was ever tangibly good for me.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

That brings back memories of how one of my poli-sci classes back in college usually ended up with me shouting down some reactionary while the professor just did nothing. And I was just a tepid sucdem who read Matt Taibi's tripe back then too lmao.

[–] crime@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit doesn't have issues with brigading anymore, because brigading is when you post on r/ChapoTrapHouse and also post on other subreddits.

I suppose it follows that Lemmy brigading is when you post on Hexagonal Bear dot Net and also post on other lemmy instances.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

when you post on r/ChapoTrapHouse

Have you been around long enough to remember the obsession with ShitRedditSays?

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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As usual, liberals just use different words when they like some vs. when they don't. When they don't like it? Brigading! When they do? Just raising concerns, I hate those red fash tankies.

PS they are envious of our knack for a self-organized united front.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their culture is so snarky and anti-collaboration, they get pissy with each other nearly as much as they do with us, and they don't engage any differently in either case. I really do feel bad for these people who are trapped in the atomized, all against all social paradigm of the new internet.

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[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Literally every dog pile I have seen has been some nerd talking shit, a chapo or 2 posting in good faith, the nerd says something extra stupid... nerd gets dog piled.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you see, when I call you a Chinese bot, or fake Russian names I'm being a very reasonable discussion partner

when you call me out for being a weird racist it's brigading, trolling, 4chan, and the type of behavior that needs to be defederated from

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Death to Russia = non-political

Death to NATO = I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMENT

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

also weird that one is a country full of people and the other is an aggressive military alliance, If one died a whole lot of normal people would die, plus some war criminals

if Nato died it'd just be dead war criminals

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