Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
Yes, obviously, what Israel is now doing is in no way defensive but taking their dishonest framing and directly rejecting it is good too.
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israel doesn't even have the right to exist
No country has a right to exist
People have a right to exist
Countries do not.
After WWII the allies dismantled Nazi Germany and Japan because the whole world was like "you don't get to exist." Not like that anyway.
Zionist propagandists try to force the repetition of that line "Israel has a right to exist... Israel has a right to defend itself..." so that people never question it or rather can't question it (they become children and start calling you names if you do). It's just more bullshit and they always tie the state of Israel back to "the Jews" broadly, across the world. As if saying "Israel doesn't have a right to exist" is the same as "Jews don't have a right to exist." Obviously it is not the same. Not even in the same realm. Like if I said Vatican City doesn't have a right to exist no one would assume I meant "genocide all the Catholics!" I mean the entire thing is just moronic. Ethnostates are fucking bad.
Let's be honest here: at least half of Nazi Germany didn't get dismantled.
My absolute favorite is to hit them with even more religious bullshit. "As a devout Catholic I cannot deny Jesus of Nazareth is the rightful King of Israel and his kingdom will reign through the hearts of all; it transcends borders, language and culture. To acknowledge another Israel would be against the practice of the church."
papistry 
if your opinion about israel is anything other than "death to israel, infinite october 7s on the settlers until palestine is free from the river to the sea", fuck you, your bloodline, and all your dead homies
It's a fun thing to say, I'm sure. But it honestly upsets me to see others so willingly and happily wish death upon others. I don't actually wish death on anyone, it's just a sad and unfortunate necessity because oppressors like Israel and the US make it the only means of self-defence.
i agree the "1000 october 7s" aka 1.2 million dead people part is concerning me a bit, even if it's hyperbole. like, we can recognize violence is often a necessary means to liberation without rooting for maximum violence?