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[-] gjoel@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah? Well... GPT-7 will be a CEO on LinkedIn!

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

Oh no it's gonna murder us.

[-] jas0n@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

All aboard the hype train! We need to stop using the term "AI" for advanced auto complete. There is not even a shred of intelligence in this. I know many of the people here already know this, but how do we get this message to journalists?! The amount of hype being repeated by respectable journalists is sickening.

[-] Ashen44@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago

people have been calling literal pathfinding algorithms in video games AI for decades. This is what AI is now and I think it's going to be significantly easier to just accept this and clarify when talking about actual intelligence than trying to fight the already established language.

[-] jas0n@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

While you're not wrong, I don't ever recall people en masse believing a game AI was truly intelligent. Everyone was always aware of the truth. There just isn't a great name for the computer players. I think it's an important distinction here because people do believe ChatGPT is intelligent.

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 10 points 3 days ago

Too late, the journalists have been replaced by advanced auto completes already.

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If you can be replaced by advanced autocomplete, you're not really a "journalist"

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I know many of the people here already know this, but how do we get this message to journalists?!

Journalists have this information, but articles about it probably generate 10% of the clicks, shares and eyeballs->ad revenue that either the hype or the scaremongering does.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago
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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 24 points 3 days ago

A PhD makes a person knowledgeable, not intelligent. And GPT-4 was already extremely knowledgeable.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 days ago

It's even better at seeming knowledgeable about things that it may or may not be knowledgeable about.

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[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

What a bunch of bullshit. I've asked ChatGPT recently to do a morphological analysis of some Native American language's very simple sentences, and it gave absolute nonsense as an answer.

And let's be clear: It was an elementary linguistics task. Something that I did learn to do on my own by just doing a free course online.

Yesterday, I asked it to help me create a DAX measure for an Excel pivot table. The answers it gave were completely wrong. Each time, I would tell it the error that Excel was displaying and it would respond with "Sorry about that. You can't use that function there for [x] reasons."

So it knows the reason why a combination of DAX functions won't work but recommends them anyways. That's real fucking useful.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 41 points 3 days ago

It would have to actually have intelligence, period, for it to have PhD level intelligence. These things are not intelligent. They just throw everything at the wall and see what would stick.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

I believe guardian of galaxy 3 did a take of that. Rocket was special because he innovated while the others just mimiced.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago

You are correct, but there's a larger problem with intelligence, we don't have a practical definition, and we keep shifting the goalpost. Then there's always a question of a philosophical zombie, if someone acts as a human and has a human body you won't be able to tell apart if they don't really have intelligence, so we only need to put LLM into humanlike body (it's not so, but you get the point)

reminds me of this, although the comic is on a different matter

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2014-11-25

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 97 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

PhD level intelligence? Sounds about right.

Extremely narrow field of expertise ✔️
Misplaced confidence in its abilities outside its area of expertise ✔️
A mind filled with millions of things that have been read, and near zero from interactions with real people✔️
An obsession over how many words can get published over the quality and correctness of those words ✔️
A lack of social skills ✔️
A complete lack of familiarity of how things work in the real world ✔️

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

"Never have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with!"

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[-] jBlight@lemmy.world 130 points 4 days ago

Ah yes, ph.d intelligence, but the wisdom of a toddler.

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 71 points 4 days ago

Why yes, you CAN put a tomatoes in your fruit salad. It is a fruit after all.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago

By this logic I can finally add pizza to my salad!

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[-] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 81 points 4 days ago

Translation: GPT-5 will (most likely illegally) be fed academic papers that are currently behind a paywall

[-] twice_twotimes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

I mean, GPT 3.5 consistently quotes my dissertation and conference papers back to me when I ask it anything related to my (extremely niche, but still) research interests. It’s definitely had access to plenty of publications for a while without managing to make any sense of them.

Alternatively, and probably more likely, my papers are incoherent and it’s not GPT’s fault. If 8.0 gets tenure track maybe it will learn to ignore desperate ramblings of PhD students. Once 9.0 gets tenured though I assume it will only reference itself.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago

I guess then we would be able to tell it to recite a paper for free and it may do it.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Or hallucinate it, did you know that large ammounts of arsenic can cure cancer and the flu?

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[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago

GPT-7 will have full-self-driving.
But that's next year.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago

You know the Chineese? They talk about this ChatPT 7. But we Americans. My uncle, very smart man. Smartest in every room except on Thanks Giving. I always had Thanks Giving and my Turkey, everyone loved my Turkey. He said we will soon have Chat 8 and the Chineese they know nothing like it.

TIL, Trump is just autocomplete.

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

Wow... They want to give AI even more mental illness and crippling imposter syndrome to make it an expert in one niche field?

Sounds like primary school drop-out level thinking to me.

[-] Min7_f43sh_j5@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago

I'm planning to defend in October and I can say that getting a Ph.D. is potentially the least intelligent thing I've ever done.

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[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 days ago
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[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 4 days ago

Will GPT-7 then be a burntout startup founder?

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[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 66 points 4 days ago

NFTs will keep their value forever...

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

If AI was that capable then using human workers would eventually become cost prohibitive. If we're still stuck having to work to live under a capitalist system by then, there's gonna be serious problems. A post-labor economy doesn't need to charge for even a modestly comfortable standard of living, and the overwhelming majority of people will go looking for things to do no matter how many politicians swear otherwise.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago

PhD level of intelligence

No it won't. At some point, some AI will, but that point is still far away.

I'm sure it'll know how to string words and sentences together real nice, even to the point where it makes sense. It will still not have a clue what it's talking about, it'll still not understand basic concepts as "understanding" requires a whole lot more than just an advanced ability of pushing words together.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

I'm more interested if it can have empathy and give it something like a soul. Mostly so we don't get murdered.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So copying everyone else’s work and rehashing it as your own is what makes a PhD level intelligence? (Sarcastic comments about post-grad work forthcoming, I’m sure)

Unless AI is able to come up with original, testable, verifiable, repeatable previously unknown associations, facts, theories, etc. of sufficient complexity it’s not PhD level…using big words doesn’t count either.

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[-] zloubida@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

The fact that I have a PhD while I knew that I wouldn't use it quickly after I begun, thus loosing years of my life is the proof that I'm dumb as a rock. Fitting for ChatGPT.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Now it can not only tell you to eat rocks, but also what type of rock would be best for your digestion.

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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago
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[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Having a PhD doesn’t say you’re intelligent. It says you’re determined & hardworking.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Which GPT will take my job? I would imagine it's only a year out, at the most.

Then what? I leave my tech job and go find menial labor?

Fuck our government for not laying down rules on this. I knew it would happen, but goddamn...

[-] expr@programming.dev 12 points 3 days ago

sigh

I'm so tired of repeating this ad nauseum. No, it's not going to take your job. It's hype train bullshit full of grifters. There is no intelligence or understanding, nor have we come anywhere close to achieving that. That is still entirely within the realm of science fiction.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

ChatGPT is already taking people’s jobs. You overestimate the complexity of what some people get paid for.

GenerativeAI cannot do anything on its own. However, it is a productivity amplifier in the right hands. What those “more productive” people do is reduce the demand for other labour.

Chatbots are performing marketing communication, marketing automation, cloud engineering, simple coding, recruitment screening, tech support, security monitoring, editorial content and news, compliance verification, lead development, accounting, investor relations, visual design, tax preparation, curriculum development, management consulting, legal research, and more. Should it be? Many ( I am guessing you ) would argue no. Is it though? Absolutely.

All of the above is happening now. This train is going to accelerate before it hits equilibrium. The value of human contribution is shifting but not coming back to where it was.

Jobs will be created. Jobs are absolutely being lost.

You are correct that ChatGPT is not intelligent. You are right that it does not “understand” anything. What does that have to do with taking people’s jobs? There are many, many jobs where intelligence and understanding are under-utilized or even discouraged. Boiler-plate content creation is more common than you think.

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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People have the wrong idea about how advanced AI has to be to take people’s jobs.

The loom was not intelligent. It did not “understand” weaving. It still eliminated so many jobs that human society was altered forever and so significantly that we are still experiencing the effects.

As an analogy ( not saying this is how the world will choose to go ), you do not need a self-driving car that is superior to humans in all cases in order for Uber to eliminate drivers. If the AI can handle 95% of cases, you need 5 drivers for 100 cars. They can monitor, supervise, guide, and fully take over when required.

Many fields will be like this. I do not need an AI with human level intelligence to get rid of the Marcom dept. I need one really skilled person to drive 6 people’s worth of output using AI. How many content creators and headline writers do I need to staff an online “news” room? The lack of person number two may surprise you.

Getting rid of jobs is not just a one for one replacement of every individual with a machine. It is a systemic reduction in demand. It is a shifting of geographic dependence.

Many of the tasks we all do are less novel and high-quality than we think they are. Many of us can be “largely” replaced and that is all it takes. We may not lose our jobs but there will certainly be many fewer new jobs in certain areas than there would have been.

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