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[-] btbt@hexbear.net 63 points 2 days ago
[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago

getting real hard to make excuses for the terror

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago

A homeless person shooting a frothing chud for pepper spraying their tent is self-defense.

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 60 points 2 days ago

anakin-padme-1 Homelessness is illegal in the US.

anakin-padme-2 Because the state mandates people have housing right?

anakin-padme-3

anakin-padme-4 There's a job guarantee at least, right...

[-] Roonerino@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

There's plenty of ~~slave labor~~ employment opportunities in prison!

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 41 points 2 days ago

I don't say this enough: Death to America.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago

It always puts a smile on my face when I see Amerikans cry pig tears whenever a billionaire in China or Vietnam gets jailed for corruption.

porky-scared-flipped: “Corruption is punishable!?!? Why do those poor browns hate FREEDOM so much!?!?”

[-] regul@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago

never have I felt more deeply the truth of the "scratch a liberal" quote than reading reactions to this on west coast subreddits

"broken clocks" from "I care about the homeless but..." libs everywhere

welcome to the resistance, Justice Thomas

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago

Push down wages and drive up inflation.

Lock people out of basic housing.

Criminalize homelessness.

Cheap source of labor.

Profit! think-about-it

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago

The Constitution’s Eighth Amendment serves many important functions, but it does not authorize federal judges to wrest those rights and responsibilities from the American people and in their place dictate this Nation’s homelessness policy

just perfect double speak chefs-kiss

Rather than criminalize mere status, Grants Pass forbids actions like “occupy[ing] a campsite” on public property “for the purpose of maintaining a temporary place to live.” Grants Pass Municipal Code Under the city’s laws, it makes no difference whether the charged defendant is homeless, a backpacker on vacation passing through town, or a student who abandons his dorm room to camp out in protes on the lawn of a municipal building.

just literally and unironically that_Anatole_France_quote.jpg

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

The quote for those wondering:

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.

[-] AnalogPrincess@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

What a slapt in the face to working class people, for they are the only ones who are forced to do these things.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

This is what immediately came to my mind too. Holy shit. Too on the nose

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago

SCotUS wants Bell Riots 2024 lets-fucking-go

[-] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

Worth noting: shelters aren’t really an option, except for the people who want us out of sight.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

Politicians: “homelessness? Just genocide them all, lol!”

Also politicians: “we need to do everything in our power to raise property values! Muh invoosent must go to the moooooon!”

They know what they’re doing. They just want as many poor people dead as possible, they unironically want to live in a world with only billionaires.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

but among the billionaires one must rise to the top to become... TRILLIONAIRE, thus relegating the others to mere peasant status

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

A world of only billionaires would deprive them of their power. I think it's more likely that, to keep the beast moving as the carrot withers into nothing, they need to get a scarier stick.

[-] AnalogPrincess@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Sickening, honestly.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Nah, we make them money. What they want is a working class that is subservient and afraid to rise up against them.

They've already succeeded in that and now they're just adding assurances.

[-] dead@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago
[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Every day history continues to punish the 5-4 podcast for their optimism.

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago

Land of the free

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

What the fuck do they mean homeless people aren't protected from cruel and unusual punishments?

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

they overdramatazing little bit, but you can now fine homeless people for sleeping in public spaces (despite absence of shelters), which is straight to jail process if stretched a little bit in time

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

Supreme Court... declares homeless people not protected from cruel and unusual punishment

As far as I can tell, this is a pretty significant misrepresentation of the ruling.

Johnson v. Grants Pass is a court case originally filed in 2018 that determined it is cruel and unusual punishment to arrest or ticket people for sleeping outside when they have no other safe place to go. The case started in Grants Pass, Oregon when the city began issuing tickets to people sleeping in public, even when there were not enough safe, accessible shelter beds.

The ruling from a lower court was that ticketing people for sleeping outside when they have no access to shelter constitutes cruel and unusual punishment, which the federal constitution prohibits. It looks like the Supreme Court decided took the opposite stance: that ticketing homeless people when there's no shelter available is not cruel and unusual punishment.

This is nowhere near a blanket ruling that "homeless people are not protected from cruel and unusual punishment." A comparison would be if a lower court said exposed toilets in jails constituted cruel and unusual punishment and the Supreme Court reversed. That's not saying prisoners can now be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment of any kind. It's saying that specific practice -- providing only exposed toilets in jail cells -- is not within the definition of cruel and unusual punishment.

This is obviously a bad ruling, but it is not anywhere near as bad as the headline claims. I don't think we do ourselves any favors overstating the severity of issues -- it's The Boy Who Cried Wolf, and the situation is bad enough that the actual facts are all we need.

[-] regul@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

It's actually overturning the court's own ruling from 2019, not a lower court's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_v._Boise

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Technically they overturned both nerd

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago
[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

but what about safe encampments mr newsom? :goose-knife:

[-] neroiscariot@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

look, how are we supposed to tell NIMBYs that all homeless people are criminals if we don't criminalize homelessness?

[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

Seriously how can we protect this vulnerable group. I generally want to know if anyone knows what's been successful in other cities to 1) stop terrorizing/traumatizing them and 2) house them

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago
  1. work with local advocacy orgs. food not bombs is also a great way to meet local leftists, in any case. but generally there are already orgs in every city attempting this fight on the ground. they provide services and serve as a nexus for direct action.
  2. show up enmass to local government meetings to cause a stink when they try to enact harmful policies.
  3. prevent the cops from targeting encampments by putting bodies in between (preferably armed).
[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Something something reserve army of labor.

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago
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