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Don't vote for the man, vote for the administration. The Trump administration will be evil incarnate and absolutely the end American democracy.
Right, the options in this election are:
If the election were between trump and another sack of shit, I would vote for the non-human looking sack of shit.
Biden may not be perfect, but he's way better than a facist sack of shit.
THE PROBLEM IS FUCKING PROPAGANDA RUNNING RAMPANT!!
we would LITERALLY not have to deal with Trump if Newsmax, OANN, Fox, and their like weren't allowed to just lie and specifically aim to enrage the population. They hide behind the "opinion" designation of their show but act like it's news, or they admit it's opinion and claim it's opinion entirely based on "facts."
The reason Trump exists in the form that he does, with the support that he does is 110% at the feet of the fucking propaganda that gives him cover.
We can trace this back to Reagan nixing fair reporting laws.
We wouldn't have to deal with trump had it not been for Clinton's Pied Piper strategy. That's the sole reason he's in politics.
He ran in 2000 or 2004 on the democratic ticket. Didn't get very far. Joked about having Oprah as his VP
Yup. Decades of conservative propaganda calling Democrats the enemies for no specific reason. Republicans have been brainwashed 100%. No sane human being would ever fucking vote for trump.
I think Brandon should fuck off. But i am 100% voting for him and it should be plain as day that while he is declining, he is nonetheless leagues superior to a fascist traitor.
Of course trump is an existential threat. Brandon is just a basic problem.
Brandon 2024. Fuck the republican traitor filth.
Brandon also filled his administration with a competent team of non-fascists and none of his relatives.
I hear ya and I guess Im doing the same.... But jesus fucking christ is it hard to imagine voting for that walking corpse after the debate. I'm wondering if it's somehow in the playbook that Democrats secretly want to lose. If we're not in a cult of personality it should be a no brainer to replace the candidate.
trump isn't the cause, he's a symptom.
trump might be the worst so far, but so has every single Republican president going back to Nixon.
When the Republican nominee is finally not trump, there is zero logical reason to expect that next person to not be even more crazy.
We can't keep reacting to them and treating every election like it's the last night at the Alamo.
If we want to stop fascism we need long term planning, planning for what we do if we win, plans for when shit goes wrong, plans for fucking every contingency. Plans for the next decades even after we think we finally beat fascism.
That's supposed to be the entire point of the national party. Long term strategy past any one candidate.
Instead they only care about raising as much money as humanely possible in the moment.
Shit is too real to just blindly vote blue no matter who, we need to start asking why the people running the party are even around. And if they're honestly more worried about making money that stopping fascism.
Here I think lies the main problem. When Biden was elected in 2020, in my understanding the goal was always for him to warm the seat for the next/younger generation. In those 4 years nobody stepped forward, and they are scared of proposing a forward looking vision because it may alienate some voters (either on the left or in the center). So now we have the choice between stagnation or actively tearing down Democracy.
The truly despicable people remain in the shadows.
Edit: despicable not disposable stupid autocorrect
Interesting headline - its disconnected from the content of the article. Most of it is about how broken the US electoral system is.
The important point is that an electoral and political system that was designed to protect from the "tyranny of the majority" has instead created a system perpetuating the tyranny of the minority.
Americans are indoctrinated to think theirs in the greatest country on earth from a very young age. But the political system is an absolute mess - the electoral college, the senate (which is totally skewed in favour of small states), the supreme court and politicised legal system, and the embedded 2 party system.
Trump isn't a threat to democracy. Democracy in the US has been dead for a long while now. It vaguely worked when there was a post war consensus but now it's completely log jammed. And nobody has a plan to fix it because they can't.
Well the orange fuck just became an even bigger problem thanks to his pocket-justices.
We are truly fucked. Thanks for letting the wrong guy run and dooming us a terrible outcome.
I agree. We are going to lose in November if we remain on this shuffling horse.
I will vote for Biden, but we will lose because we're not the people who needed to be convinced by that debate performance.
This is such a stupid take that I keep hearing. It's like saying, "Yes, the captain is steering us towards the iceberg, but the real problem is the iceberg." Well, we can't change the iceberg, but there's still time to change the captain.
That’s a great analogy, perfect, I might repeat it around if you don’t mind.
I think the Democrat party is a problem for pushing forward candidates that suck. There no way Trump wins in 2016 if he was going against somebody that was actually popular.
I am getting serious 2016 vibes this cycle. Biden should never have run a second time. And after that debate performance it feels like continuing with Biden is just as big of a mistake.
People like you underestimate how old and conservative most ppl who vote Dem are
I get that, but part of the issue is optics. The Democratic party can easily promote the narrative that "progressive" ideals are not far left.
Hillary Clinton said in a debate that Medicare for all will never be implemented. She didn't say that because she believed it, or even that she wanted it to be true. She said it because her opponent was running on that platform and gaining a massive following of mainstream voters as a result.
The party needs to quit reacting when Republicans say they are "far left" and instead fight to control the narrative. I guarantee the "old and conservative" democratic voters would follow suit if the party pushed for it.
The single next thing Trump could do for our country is to drop dead of a heart attack 2 days before election day.
"The Republicans are the problem." (actually fair)
"The democrats are the problem."
"The [insert dice roll here] are the problem."
It's more complicated than one or another. So taking into account that all parties are currently "the problem" with Republicans being absolutely 100% on top of the fuck off list of naughty naysayers, I argue that YOU are also the problem, my dear voter.
So look, Lemmy is a leftist, and to some degree, progressive vacuum consumed by a desire to see better days. We have our trickle-in bright red-orange tarts to displace some sentiment, though mostly we all want similar things. The problem though is that we are all just too fucking opinionated on precisely where and how to do "it". Like fuck, guys, here's our narrative:
"Biden Harris is a good bad mediocre handicapped stable president old man who had a cold raspy voice that still answered, didn't answer, could have answered, more harder faster. His policies are good great bad awful, work, and we need to get him back into office, probably, maybe, someone else, not Trump.
You all collectively sounding like a certain riddle-giving Statue guarding a mad tyrants vault.
We fucking agree on so god. damned. much. But like fuck all if all of you aren't so hung up on the petty details and discourse within your own neigh disillusionment that you can't help but yell at one another over stupid bullshit.
Shut up and come together for fucking once. Because if there is one thing the right has that ANY group left of the bipartisan line doesn't have, it's the ability to hate each other and still act together when the stakes are the highest.
Kind of hard to deal with the problem when the democrats insist on using the weakest tools to fight back.
AIPAC wants Trump and 14a3 is not on their policy platform
Diaper Retard Hitler will kill the Western world as we know it, and the only other option we present to you is a man who is too old and senile to hand out werther's originals by himself.
Civilization is a lost cause.
Well that's certainly true, but Biden is a problem that really shouldn't exist. He is by far the lesser of two evils, but we still deserve better.
At this point it is the fault of the media that is keeping us divided, democrat hubris, and the bubble they live in thinking a man with dementia will bring out the parties very fickle voters to vote.