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[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dude is fascinating and I can see him genuinely thinking that.

He was a mentally ill fail son to a wealthy oil family, who mistreated him and sent him away to both dodgy MKUltra linked hospitals and just paid him to do the bohemian thing and stay away as an embarrassment.

His family also happened to be extremely close contacts with the Bush family, knowing them from the oil business, living in the same small town at one point, being big donors to both Poppy and W's campaigns, and also being associated with the CIA front World Vision that was a big Bush initiative.

When he was previously caught by airport security with three guns arriving on the same day and similar time as Carter (another guy hated by Bush) they just let him go, supposedly without even running a background check.

Obviously, if he'd got Reagan, Poppy would have become President as his VP.

But the other weird interplay is that Neil Bush had been staying at the Hinkley's house, while John Jr was there, before the assassination attempt and was going to meeting another member of thr Hinkley family for dinner the day afterwards - allegedly to try and smooth over or help out with the news that Reagan's admin was allowing the state to bring a $2m fine against the Hinkley's oil company.

And there's a whole load other bizarre facts that link Hinkley, the Bushes, the CIA, and the MKUltra fuckery in hospitals like St Elizabeth - where Hinkley was later sent.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he wasn't mentally ill or a failson, I would say it's just another conspiracy theory, but I can definitely see these ghouls take advantage of someone they consider an embarrassment. If he succeeds, then everyone celebrates a job well done between friends. And if he fails, there's a risk the embarrassment becomes shown to the world, but in this case, it seems pretty contained as no one really gives a shit about the assassination attempt, Hinckley, or his family.

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He only shot Ronnie so he could have sex with a child. He just happened to shoot a bad guy.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She was 19 when he shot Reagan

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

she was underage in the movie that he became infatuated with her

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He needed mental health treatment over the infatuation, not shooting Reagan.

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

He shot Reagan as a direct result of his infatuation.

[–] SistersofMercy@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He exchanged letters with Ted Bundy while in jail which are pretty crazy reads. And he tried to contact Charles Manson

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, he wasn't in an amazing state. If he hadn't managed to shoot Reagan he'd likely have just shot someone else, including Jodie Foster. The line between stalkers being willing to commit violence to impress their victim and stalkers being willing to commit violence to control their victim is basically nonexistent.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

I just assume that Hinckley would go back to prison if he Tweeted "aim for the body next time". Dunno tho.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

You either die based, or you live long enough to see yourself become cringe

[–] regul@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

Well he's missed at least twice in his life.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Finger@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

no more half measures walter

Seems like he's talking to prospective president killers here, which I suppose is reasonable. He knows failing to kill a president is the worst mistake of your life.

[–] asante@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

imagine talking about a failed assassin as a failed assassin lmao ratio

fr tho, media commentary by actual assassins would be so funny and onion-esque.

like imagine talking about the assassination attempt on Trump and then interviewing a hitman right after lmao

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At least he hit the target

[–] asante@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

fair, pretty sure he technically no-scoped him too lol

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

I assume he’s criticizing the SS here. Their response was a bit violent, no?

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

i think i was trying to say something about the duality of man, sir

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Jack Black found a new bandmate!

[–] cmhickman358@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

Complacent (D)

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Underrated comment

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

no it totally was the way to go but no more fucking half measures hinckley

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hinckley basically said "y'all cowards don't even smoke crack".

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've seen this done wrong here 3 times. It's "you'll cowards". "You'll"

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

That is how VIPER renders it, yeah. Transcendent in the field of grammar.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago

you will cowards?

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Hexbear Comrade @GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net is right. To be slightly fair and to date myself I listened to this in high school and only barely remember the title of the album. It's also crazy to think this dude was a pioneer in the internet rap phase. It's crazy to think Bandcamp and Soundcloud rappers exist because this dude was rappin' over the most doo-doo beats with even worse bars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You'll_Cowards_Don't_Even_Smoke_Crack

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Brother, you should have used a .45.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

.45 keep me alive, I got 7 rounds on my side.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Y'all kidding right? Dude doesn't want to go back to prison.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They need more dakka

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago