It's kinda like comparing universal healthcare to individual payer for-profit insurance. One rewards everyone as a universal system with consistency (at least in theory) and the other rewards only rich people.
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Right. One's a business and one's a service the government provides.
The government provides
Except USPS is completely self funded, and does NOT use any of your tax dollars.
That's an excellent point, but it is still a government service.
Being administered by the government, self sufficient, and mandated to not make excess revenue just makes it a remarkably easy to justify service.
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That's why they oppose universal healthcare here in the US -- they wan't access to special treatment.
What they don't realize is they can still have Mommy's Super Special Boy(tm) access, since even in a system of universal healthcare, there's still a demand for private practice.
So really, it just boils down to them hating poor people and other marginalized groups
Also universal healthcare can afford specialized equipment because the amount of people they would service is higher than the profit driven hospital
Rather than the current system of specialized equipment still having to make profit so treatment costs increase
I would argue that a postal service is not structured the same way as an on demand service like uber.
A postal courier who arrives at your door, picks up an important document, and takes it straight to the recipient will cost about the same.
When you write a letter or send a parcel you first take it to a designated pick up point. It is then picked up at an allocated time along with all the other letters and parcels, and at best it is going to arrive the next day having been through a huge sorting routing system at the post depot.
Apples and oranges.
Also fuck uber eats and the gig economy.
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I don't understand why so many people can't just go get their own damn food. Uber eats hasn't been around long enough for you all to have forgotten what you did before, has it? How did you survive back then?
Once a month I get home from work so tired that nothing in the world will convince me not to go home, order a pizza and wait for it while laying on the couch. I deserve that and I will do it, no matter how much "back in the days" you people throw at me, I'm busy and tired
You could always order the food when you're leaving work, then pick it up on your way home.
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Why use Uber eats why not just call the place directly and have them deliver it? Uber eats takes a large chunk of their profits or they over charge you.
Some places still do their own deliveries, but most in my area ONLY do UberEats, to the extent that they've cut their delivery staff. The only consistent holdouts seem to be the Chinese places.
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When I know I’ll be too exhausted to go out and grab food, I make sure to get it on the way home so there’s no extra drive or leaving the house.
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I just tossed a coin out the window at the nearest child and told them to fetch me the plumpest turkey in the butcher's window.
ugh, we used to have a REAL country
Everyone survived. We all survived before the internet too. But the world changes. If I'm injured or disabled it's a great option. If I'm sick, maybe I don't want to expose everyone to what I have.
There are a lot of valid reasons to use it beyond "lazy".
Except for people without cars and the walk to restaurants is dangerous. Except for invalids. Except for people who work at companies with rules about not leaving your post. Except for people quaranteening. Except for....except for....except for....
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Fuck Doordash, fuck Uber Eats, fuck Skip the Dishes. These greedy motherfuckerswant me to pay a delivery fee, a "convinience fee", AND up charge me on my food, and act like triple dipping into my pocket isn't a fucking crime. Then they have the gall to tell me that waiting an hour and a half for my food while my driver sits in a random-ass parking lot to receive luke-warm food is acceptable delivery time and service and ask for a fucking tip.
And worse, no one wins! The restaurants hate it because they're paying fees out the ass and receiving hate for the delivery services failures, the driver's hate it because they're not being given a fair wage, and the end consumer hates it because they're paying literally 1.5x the cost of already inflating food prices! The only winner is corporate of whatever company you're using, all to save you a, what, 10-15 minute drive?
Fuck em', I will hop in my car and go pick up my food every single day of the week. I'm never too lazy to tell a bullshit service like those to go fuck itself.
As a former driver I agree. I always feel bad about the tip thing but gas is so expensive and the apps pay like shit despite charging so many fees. And knowing that restaurants also pay a fee meaning the apps get MORE money is even more infuriating.
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Socialized system vs capitalized system: The capitalist comes in and uses their venture capital to undercut the socialized system so that people stop using it. Once the socialized system loses interest and funding or are otherwise out of the picture, they they jack their prices up way higher than the original and because they're the only game in town, they get to keep those record profits in effective perpetuity.
This is just about efficiency. Postal (including UPS / FedEx) can plan the route ahead, stack parcels with as little space as possible, and deliver hundreds of packages in a day. UberEats doesn't know when will order show up, doesnt know when will order be ready, it can deliver maybe 2 - 3 orders in a row, the route planning is just in time.
Tell me how is this only explainable by socialized system.
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I don't recall any socialized courier or food delivery services.
Republicans helped the couriers prevent USPS from competing. The 2006 law they passed mandated that USPS had to pre-cover healthcare and retirements for the next 75 years, which no other organization does, and has put USPS in financial trouble.
All those moron Boomers relying on the USPS for their medicine delivery were suddenly shocked service to bumfuck Alabama would have to be reduced. Yet they keep voting republican...
Could you imagine? Food delivery apps nationalized then delivered through the USPS?
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You can order food through the mail. You need to plan your meals a little that's all.
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Delivery guy here! Don't forget that the driver only gets $5 out of those $30. So fuck uber. And I take my bike when I want to eat, obviously.
And yet the postal worker probably gets paid more despite you paying that much for uber eats.
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Of that $30.50, the person delivering the food got $3 and the person making the food got $2.
Not only that but they're also inflating the actual meal prices. I've noticed that the same item at the same place costs different when I go in. They also don't care if it's ann Uber order and you're gonna get a half assed attempt
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It's a combination of economy of scale and flexibility around time. The USPS sorts massive volumes of mail and packages, then delivers by the truck load. With food delivery, you get a piping hot meal delivered by a dedicated driver. That said, still overpriced by the companies.
It’s because of the greedy USPS unions. You are paying for their inflated salaries (which just stuff the pockets of their union leaders), theirs golden pensions, and Cadillac health cares. If we could just privatize it, the market will push the prices down because of competition.
/s btw
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While I don't think Uber eats is worth it, and I love the USPS, there's a major difference between the two: time. No one is having the USPS delivery their lunch.
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I love watching people realize private courier services are expensive. It's kinda gross watching them throw tantrums when they realize they can't afford it.
And that's why I don't use doordash, maybe if I was rich but, when you were counting every dollar, you can get your ass up.
These days I don't even have pizza delivered to me, I will get up and get that shit.
The only time I have had it delivered lately, for a few times when I was too sick to get up and make my own soup so I just ordered some pasta from Domino's instead. App makes it so easy
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And this is why I cook my own food. It's absurd to throw away money for some asshole corporation who doesn't give a shit about you. It's cheaper and healthier to just cook for yourself anyway.
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I provision and ship the iPads we use for trainings at work. Today I shipped two identical boxes, one over 2000 miles to rural California, FedEx 2nd day which cost $8, the other about 1000 miles to a town in southern Saskatchewan. That one cost $45. I know customs is a pain, but that's a stark difference for whats ultimately a shorter journey with 100% fewer mountains between here and there
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If you're spending 30 quid to get a takeaway delivered you're an idiot.
Most takeaways charge what, £2 at most for delivery? The meal itself is only around £20 if you're very very hungry.
You are getting utterly and completely ripped off, but if you're wealthy enough to throw that sort of money away so stupidly, who am I to stop you.
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