this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2024
58 points (98.3% liked)

food

22315 readers
106 users here now

Welcome to c/food!

The place for all kinds of food discussion: from photos of dishes you've made to recipes or even advice on how to eat healthier.

Animal liberation is essential to any leftist movement.

Image posts containing animal products must have nfsw tag and add a content warning (CW:Meat/Cheese/Egg) ,and try to post recipes easily adaptable for vegan.

Posts that contain animal products may receive informative comments regarding animal liberation, and users may disengage by telling a commenter that the original poster wants to, "disengage".

Off-topic, Toxic, inflammatory, aggressive debating, and meta (community rules, site rules, moderators,etc ) posts or comments will be removed.

Compiled state-by-state resource for homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries, and food banks.

Food Not Bombs Recipes

The People's Cookbook

Bread recipes

Please be sure to read the Code of Conduct and remember we are all comrades here. Share all your delicious food secrets.

Ingredients of the week: Mushrooms,Cranberries, Brassica, Beetroot, Potatoes, Cabbage, Carrots, Nutritional Yeast, Miso, Buckwheat

Cuisine of the month:

Thai , Peruvian

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I.e. my chef friend had ground jalapeno at her apartment, shit was good. Like cayenne level heat but with a different flavor

I had to go to like an international food market to find some near me which is weird given how ubiquitous jalapeno peppers are

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Sumac. It's a deep purple, lemony spice that's great for filling the flavor role of an acid like vinegar or lemon juice in things where you don't want to do that for whatever reason. Although note that it will dye food purple and can make something like curry turn a very unappetizing shade of grey.

On that note, citric acid powder is also good for similar reasons.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

indian sour mango powder is also good for curries

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Sumac was my first thought too, I love a good sumac onion on just about anything

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sumac is specifically malic acid (as in sour apples) instead of citric acid (lemons) or acetic acid (vinegar), and it's really cool how if you're careful you can tell each type of sourness feels distinctly different.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Neat.

how if you're careful you can tell each type of sourness feels distinctly different.

Definitely. Even though sumac has a lemony flavor apart from its sourness, it's experientially distinct from actual lemon and extremely different from vinegar.

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Also it's free right now if you live in the northeast. Just go take it off a tree.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Amchur is amazing, as is sumac. They're quite similar but traditionallythey are used in different cuisines.

Asafoetida/hing is also really great when used properly but it hardly gets any play outside of traditional south Asian cooking and it's the first spice on the chopping block when a curry gets adapted to a western recipe which is a crying shame.

Lemon myrtle is absolutely delicious. Lavender is too but it's something that is very polarising.

Mace doesn't get enough love.

Nigella seeds/kalonji are wonderful, so are ajwain.

I've never tried epazote because Mexican food is really dismal here but I hear it's one of those herbs that becomes a must-have once you start using it. On that note, chipotle peppers are super expensive here so I buy dried ground chipotle pepper and make an adobo directly into whatever dish I add it to.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Amchur is amazing, as is sumac. They're quite similar but traditionallythey are used in different cuisines

Someone else mentioned sumac colors everything purple and consequently will make curries gray and gross, does amchur not have that property

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Amchur doesn't impart any strong colour.

In my experience, sumac imparts a sort of saffron yellow but it probably depends upon how fresh it is or how it's handled but it's a very strong spice so idk if you're going to notice it having a huge impact on the colour of your dish imo. It's not going to turn a dish into tyrian purple or anything.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

@KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net okay which of you is telling me the truth about the pigmentation 》:|

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's got to be some confusion here, because it is a very purple spice and while it doesn't dye things as aggressively as say turmeric does the tint it adds is very much purple. I've used it in curry before when I didn't have lemon or vinegar to give it the little bit of acid it needed to really bring out the flavor, and it tasted amazing but looked completely grey because the purple of the sumac and the orange of the turmeric clashed. I personally don't care about the appearance of my food, but other people were definitely hesitant to try that particular curry because of the color.

I've also added it to tea that I was brewing and it added a clear purple tint. When mixing it into baked goods it also stains the dough purple a bit. Looking it up it's historically been used as a red or purple dye, so the exact hue of it may vary by species (like chinese sumac looks like it has much paler fruit than the mediterranean variety from the pictures on wikipedia, so it may have a different color when dried and ground too) or by how fresh vs dried the fruits are.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Other considerations aside, natural dyes are notoriously fickle things so it's going to come down to what else the sumac gets mixed with.

Probably the most relatable example of this is if you ever used red cabbage juice as a pH indicator - those changes in pH make a huge difference to the colour that the juice shows.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if sumac imparted a deep red or purplish colour in enough concentration (when in the right situation - e.g. sumac lemonade) but I've never seen za'atar turn dough or labneh or vegetables an unusual colour so idk. I'm no expert and I've never looked into it deeply but I am a sumac aficionado and I'm handy in the kitchen so make of that whatever you will.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

dry spices:

  • sichuan pepper (for chinese food)
  • star anise (good background flavor for lots of asian stuff)
  • coriander seed (ground or whole, for different purposes)
  • turmeric (necessary for curries and makes stuff yellow)

herbs:

  • curry leaf (necessary for south indian food)
  • sawtooth coriander/culantro (more intense coriander. south east asian food, mexican food)
  • mint
  • thai basil
[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Sichuan is just kinda good in a bunch of stuff. I keep some Sichuan peppercorns in a pepper grinder, I think they need to be fried a bit to be activated but otherwise they add a fun flavor/spice to a lot of things

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Culantro also features heavily in Peruvian food

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

i'm only familiar with it from yunnan, lao, viet and thai food, but yeah after reading up on it it seems it's more common in central/south american/carribean food than in mexican food

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago
  • celery salt
  • curry leaves
  • safflower
  • tamarind paste
  • Szechuan peppers
  • Sumac
[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Savory is my all-time favorite herb. I put that shit in everything.

Also i highly recommend keeping MSG on hand, if you don't already.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

galangal galangal galangal galangal galangal

shit's magic

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's the best way to keep it? I try to store it like I would keep fresh ginger but it tends to mold after a week or two

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mushroom powder is pretty damn good and the only place I can find it is Trader Joe's

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Oh good idea, i should get some of that

They have powdered mushroom at Harris teeter iirc, sold as "umami enhancer"

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

I’ve found it at Asian grocers as “mushroom bouillon powder”

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is Barahat uncommon enough? Love that shit

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Sichuan peppercorns

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

smoked salt

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna define "uncommon" to mean, "uncommon in Anglo countries" because some of these things are very common in very populous countries but not well-known in Anglo countries.

Black salt tastes eggy and can be added to any vegan dish to make it have some egg taste. It is pretty common in India, particularly as a component of chata masala. Chaat masala is also great, highly recommend it.

Lee kum kee mushroom boullion powder (or similar brand). It is basically a mushroomy msg + salt powder and it will instantly give a savory dish a flavor boost.

Hing, aka asafoetida, provides a garlicky flavor and a strong smell. It is also a component of chaat masala. It should be kept in an airtight jar if you want to avoid your whole place smelling like it. Also avoid if you are pregnant, as it may contribute to miscarriages. The plant it is from is a relative of that one plant that Romans used to eat as birth control and I bet these are related facts.

Real chili powder. Like the only ingredient is chilis. When Americans buy chili powder they are usually getting a mix of things. Real chili powder let's you add just a nice chili flavor and nothing else.

Citric acid. It adds instant tang and is a great pantry backup for lemon juice. You can also use it to make a nice vegan ranch in combination with a vegan mayo. You can also make sour candy out of any other candy by just rolling it in some citric acid. Example: sour patch kids are just Swedish fish rolled in citric acid.

Also I'll scone sumac and green mango powder as nice uncommon spices.

[–] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Be careful with citric acid though, it's extremely potent. My partner accidentally dropped too much into a stew and we had to pretty much make the stew like 3x bigger to dilute the sour taste

[–] PauliExcluded@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tarragon has a light licorice taste and is wonderful. Whenever I make a lemon pasta, I include some if I can find it fresh. It’s also used a lot of food in the Near East and Middle East like chakapuli.

I also love keeping chili powders on hand like shichimi tōgarashi, gochugaru, and mala powder.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Za'attar is delicious. Great simply on bread or in anything pepper is good in. I do cacio e pepe with it as well. Excellent!

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago
[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For those who can't find some of these, you can try harvesting or preparing them at home.

Peppers can be hung on a string, ideally in a sunny, dry place, and they'll eventually dry out. From there you can grind them, either manually with a mortar and pestle, or in a coffee grinder (I keep a separate one just for spices). They'll keep better if stored whole. This goes for herbs too, which can even be dried flat on a cookie sheet if spread out (I lut that cookie sheet on top of a radiator at home for a week in the cold season to give it gentle heat that won't cook it).

I saw Taragon mentioned in another comment. If you don't see this commonly, check the fresh herbs section at your loval grocer around Thanksgiving time. Buy extra when it's available and dry it out.

Sumac is harvestable and common in much of the northern US. Poison sumac looks quite different from the edible kind, and should not be easily confused, but google it so you know you're getting the right stuff.

If you're lucky enough to live in a city with an immigrant population, you can find a lot of less common spices at ethnic grocers. Some of the larger ones will even stock spices outside of their particular community's cuisine.

Finally, if you've got money to spend, Penzey's Spices online generally has good quality but it will cost more than other places (some spices benefit more from high quality than others)

[–] 187_Invitation@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Long pepper instead of black pepper. Much better.

[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cardamom is a nice one which is common in Indian cuisine but underutilized elsewhere

[–] StThicket@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

I use freshly ground cardamom in my home made waffles. It's awesome

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

maybe it's too common but cayenne powder changed my life

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

try that ground jalapeno tho

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

cayenne powder is dirt cheap, strong, and instantly makes my mac and cheese better. Might try that ground jalapeno if I can find it

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Spikenard is the shit and a key ingredient in pre-colonial European cuisine.

Galangal also slaps

Also lemon myrtle gang along with other traditional Australian spices.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Harissa is good

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I like thyme

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Ground fenugreek seed. It's lightly sweet and mapley with a hint of smoke. It's good for any sort of recipes that benefit from the general profile of cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamon, cloves, or allspice. I like it a lot for french toast

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago
  • Chipotle chili powder
  • Lemon pepper
  • Smoked paprika isn't very uncommon but I fucking LOVE. IT.
  • Celery salt
  • White pepper
[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Smoke powder. Awesome when I'm using the indoor grill and want the flavor of the outdoor one. It's SUPER potent, so a little goes a long way.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Celery seed and ground chamomile flowers are really neat additions to a dish.

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Green chili flakes are cool. They're milder than red chili flakes, so you can get more of the pepper flavor for the same amount of heat.

Freeze dried shallots are also fire. A little expensive, but it's a good lazy source of allium flavor.

load more comments
view more: next ›