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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 174 points 3 months ago (2 children)

California Cops Tased a Man Having a Seizure, Then Booked Him on Bogus Charges To Cover Their Mistake

Booked Him on Bogus Charges To Cover Their Mistake

To Cover Their Mistake

Mistake

Never has a word done so much heavy lifting.

[–] AtomicTacoSauce@lemmy.world 108 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Human rights violation" just doesn't sound muddled enough.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And newspaper or journalists don't wanna get hit with a raid

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 24 points 3 months ago

For those curious to know why this is a fear for newsrooms.

Ex-Kansas police chief who raided local newspaper criminally charged - The Guardian 13 Aug 2024

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 37 points 3 months ago

Whoopsie! I done tazed a guy having a medical emergency again!! I'm so kooky!!!

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 131 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Ok let's also assume he was intoxicated. Even then why the fuck would you tase him? Should've waited for the medical personnel. Then man was in his own goddamned house. WTF!

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 77 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Even then why the fuck would you tase him?

IIRC the thought the seizure induced thrashing was him resisting arrest. Of course that begs the question, why were they trying to arrest someone having a seizure (that they'd been sent to help BTW) in the first place?

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably for committing one of the highest crimes of the land - disrespecting a police officer by not following their orders. They don’t care if he was seizing, unconscious, whatever. They will shoot to kill for such an infraction.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Jesus fucking christ

[–] AlbertSpangler@lemmings.world 18 points 3 months ago

IN THEIR OWN HOUSE!

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 43 points 3 months ago

He was seizing right at them and they were afraid for their lives, they really had no other choice! Also, he didn't stop when they told him to, which is an egregious crime in the US it seems - when a cop tells you to do something you do it, or risk getting tazed and/or shot, even if the order is to turn green, fly, crawl with your arms in the air or stop having a grand mal seizure...

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 months ago

Cops in a town arrested a woman for drinking at home because she was rude to them when they asked her about a unrelated hit and run that happened in front of her home.

She was watching a baseball game minding her own business and they left, then came back and arrested her.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

Oh! I actually know the answer to this one!

Cuz the perpetrator was experiencing excited delirium which, to the untrained eye (and the trained eye and the doctor's eye and any eye that doesn't belong to a police officer), can LOOK like a seizure. According to numerous completely un-ridiculous lawsuits, the lawyers and doctors paid ~~off~~ by Axon have determined that repeatedly applying the electric shocks of a taser actually CURE excited delirium!

So, the fact that this man survived PROVES that the ~~assaulting~~ responding officer actually saved his life from an episode of excited delirium! Had the man died, it would have meant that the officer did everything within his ~~incompetence~~ power to rescue the man, but he simply succumbed to the grip of excited delirium. Also, had the man weighed the same as a duck, they would have had to burn him.

THIS OFFICER IS A ~~MORON~~ HERO!!!

In case I was too subtle:

/s

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[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 108 points 3 months ago

County Jail on charges of resisting arrest and battery. Afterward, he was released "still wearing nothing but his underwear and a disposable hospital outfit; he had no wallet, phone or money," the complaint states. "He did not remember Alice's phone number in the jail and they would not help him contact her, so he walked in his hospital slippers about a half mile to a gas station," where workers helped him call a taxi.

I’m familiar with the case but not this detail. Seriously, fuck these thugs.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 87 points 3 months ago (36 children)

Maybe we should defund the police.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Let's hope they tase some more rich white guys so we can get them on board finally.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They literally won't go in to those neighborhoods.

I used to think I was going to be a cop, I joined the explorers and hung out with cops, I went on rice alongs. I spent entire shifts following cops around watching them do cop shit my senior year of high school.

They would spend most of their time doing traffic patrols. The "good" cops hung out in more middle class neighborhoods, the shitheads specifically targeted poorer neighborhoods. No one patrols the affluent areas. When a call comes in they argue about who has to go. A domestic disturbance in the trailer park would get every officer not currently arresting someone out to see what's going on, because they're bored.

They know not to pull certain cars over, to look the other way when certain people are caught drunk or high in public. That's just the extent of the stuff I personally saw.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 60 points 3 months ago (3 children)

While the Marin County District Attorney's office eventually refused to formally file charges against Frankel, he has still suffered lasting harm from his treatment by police. In addition to the physical injuries he sustained from Sinnott's use of force, Frankel spent over $10,000 fighting the police's attempts to have him prosecuted.

"Man who was not formally charged with a crime forced to spend $10 000 defending himself"

Officers "submitted the false reports or caused them to be submitted in an effort to smear [Frankel's] reputation, preoccupy him with a criminal case, intimidate him, and prevent him from pursuing claims against them for improper and excessive use of force," the complaint states, adding that police "acted willfully with the wrongful intention of injuring [Frankel] and for an improper and evil motive amounting to malice."

So they collasally fucked up, then fucked up more trying to cover up the initial fuck up. Don't suppose there were any actual consequences for the police officers blatantly lying to incriminate an innocent man?

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 54 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Its like they arrive at the scene without any information at all.

They arrived their first, medical assistance still on the way. They should be to busy coordinating to make sure those can do their job efficiently when they arrive. Maybe performing first aid. They shouldn’t be looking for crimes even if they are present.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 63 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Theres just no reason for a cop to show up when 911 is called for a medical emergency.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yep, basically the whole argument to the "defund the police" movement. Take some of that fucking cop money to hire social workers. Better for society, but the fascists don't like things that are good for society.

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[–] norimee@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thats what I really don't get. In other countries if you call an ambulance, police has nothing to do with it.

In my country (Germany) the central emergency hotline 112, the equivalent to 911, isn't even run by police. Fire departments are coordinating emergencies.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Is there a way to call for an ambulance without 911? Like to ensure one ONLY gets EMS. I know you can call the local police station without 911, you should be able to get medical help without meeting armed sociopaths.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 3 months ago

Even without information, if your first reaction to the unknown is overwhelming violence, you belong in a mental institution

[–] resin85@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 months ago (10 children)

As a parent of a teenager who has tonic-clonic seizures (aka grand mal), this story made me nauseous. A patient recovering from a seizure has absolutely no ability to respond or understand what's going on. Police should be helping and making sure he's on his side, not tasing him. Whoever these cops are should be fired immediately. I hope Mr Frankel bankrupts the department.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My father has grand Mal seizures, these cops did not think that man was intoxicated. Anyone who's seen someone have a grand Mal would immediately know something was up with their brain

The first time my dad ever had one I was awoken at 1am to my mom screeching and my dad spasming on his bed spewing blood from his mouth (bit his tongue) and even I knew immediately it was a fucking seizure (I was 15 at the time and entirely untrained), these cops wanted to hurt someone

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Why the fuck were the cops even dispatched? Any dispatcher should know that cops are fucking morons. And should not be send to a medical emergency. If an ambulance is not available you send firefighters. This is almost criminal negligence on the dispatcher’s part.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

In a lot of places the police show up to any EMT/Fire response they can, as a safety thing. So it is likely the police got there before the EMTs could. So, that sucks.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have a patient who had a seizure and 911 was called. He tends to get agitated, so his wife warned the cops that came to leave him alone to come out of it as sometimes he starts flailing his arms. Well he flailed his arms and the cops decided to handle that by punching him in the head a few times. Cops need seizure training very very badly.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Cops need de escalation training badly. They treat every call as a crime.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago (9 children)

US Police officers need training very badly, period.

Also, don't call them cops anymore. They don't need a "cool" designation, they're people with a job, ans that job is to protect and serve us, not being some cool dude that we need to fear

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago
[–] norimee@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even if they didn't knew what to expect, a patient having a grand mal is lying on the floor unable to control his movements or communications.

How can that person possibly be percieved as a threat that has to be teasered?!?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, good. Another police fuckup that the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

So this article mentions absolutely nothing about this man being a "financier", but it does mention that the woman is his FIANCÉ. Did this tweet seriously mix those two words up? And then OP read the story, read this tweet, and still went ahead and screenshotted it?

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

I am reading, rolled my eyes in pure disbelief and sighed out a heavy air. This kind of thing is something that third world cops would not even do. Plenty of comparison to be made with American cops and cops from poorer countries: corrupt, power-tripping, abusive, and have little to no standards of training. But this level of bullshit is something American cops would only do.

Although on the one hand, had the man been a black person, he probably would have already been shot straight away instead of being tased. American cops are just pure comical clowns and it is tragic.

[–] tombruzzo@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I read an article like this years ago, I'd fine the link if search didn't suck everywhere.

A guy had a heart attack and his wife called emergency services. Police were the first to arrive and did what police do.

This guy was in his underwear leaning against the wall and because he didn't respond immediately to the police shouting at him they threw him to the ground and broke his back.

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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Make sure to beg dispatchers not to send the cops apparently.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

"Mal" is Latin for "bad" sounds like the cops are educated about who the bad guys are.

I once saw two cops have a shootout with a mall because they stopped reading after the first L and I THANKED them for their SERVICE.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 months ago

Wild guess: the 911 operator hears the wife, assumes her race from her speech, and transmits the assumption of her race to the cops, who choose violence as if they ever choose anything else

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