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Nationally, a study by Yale researchers determined that “the excess [COVID] death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters.”

They are literally being deceived to death.

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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 95 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a natural outcome of conservatism, what is conservatism trying to conserve? The existing power structures in society of course. So the power of God over man, of men over women, of white people over other races, and of rich over poor. Science must be rejected because science gives evidence against the supremacy of god, men, the white race and the rich.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the stereotypical conservative is someone who loves to be lied to.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't love being lied to. They love being told they're great and wonderful and better than "others". That that is a boldface and egregious lie is not the part they focus on.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they are literally thrilled by being lied to. That's why we have Qkooks, Birtherkooks, Bircherkooks, Sandyhookkooks, Start the Steal kooks, Hermancainers etc. Conservatives keep making up 100% total hoaxes over and over and over. They think dishonesty is a virtue and honesty is a vice. It doesn't even matter if yesterdays lie "it was Antifa" completely contradicts today lie "they were tourists". All that matters is the thrill they get by not having to acknowledge reality in this particular moment.

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[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has been their platform literally forever; rather than have to learn anything or improve themselves, just deny that knowledge or betterment exists.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Yep. One of the 3 core Republican party slogans is this:

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Didn’t work for drugs, definitely not going to work for science. Like a quarterback who keeps running the same three failing plays.

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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the right wing racists are using a same tactic in Australia to block the indigenous people from having a voice in parliament with a 'if you don't know vote no' campaign. we're having a referendum which means we're changing the constitution, the gist is we're going to finally properly recognise the aboriginal people (the ones that lived here for 60k years plus) and give them a permanant ability to voice their concerns in parliament.

it's disgusting and transparent for the anti information angle, however it sadly seems to be working and now likely the people that have endured mass genocide will again be silenced by the white right elites. Australia will remain one the most racist places on the planet.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First and foremost, I'll be voting yes.

The problem with our referendum is that it appears to burn a lot of political capital for the sake of gesture politics that is unlikely to change anything of substance. The voice has no teeth and almost everything about it will be determined by the courts at the time.

Now, it's better than nothing, and I don't expect it'll come at the expense of the lack of better alternatives on the horizon, but it's frustrating we can't do something more meaningful.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A reminder: it's what the First Nation Council asked for. It's a decade of work that has been approved and agreed upon by everyone involved.

That is, what you're complaining about are features, not bugs.

Edit: also, for it to have teeth in the future, Australia needs to get more Greens or other suitable 3rd parties into power which support The Voice.

While hopefully Australia will get The Voice, which will mean it won't be able to be easily removed - what's important (as always) is voting for the future of Australia and not coal.

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[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can’t fix stupid.

/“It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you squint and slightly misinterpret it, Darwin says stupid will fix itself eventually.

You just have to not save it at the last second.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they compromise herd immunity for the people who can't get vaccinated for legitimate reasons, so they're intent on taking a few of us with them.

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, my wife's niece has leukemia and as such doesn't really have her own immune system, so not only can she not get the vaccine, she would almost definitely die if she got covid.

When we got married, we decided masks on for the event, and that made our first choice maid of honor to flip her shit on us about how we're not kuzzling her, and called us sheep. Then she got a face tattoo.

A few of her family members decided to no longer speak to us over masks, even though they KNOW her family and know her niece is immunocompromised.

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[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Isn't killing your constituents a bad long term political strategy?

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't plan to win with votes.

Republicans no longer believe in the Republic.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

They're all in with this guy Gerry. He's manderin' all over tarnation!

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

They already don't have a long term. They have to do a coup this decade or they're fucked. Loyalty is more important than long term voting here

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Covid was a great litmus test for that question and republicans failed miserably

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

stupid people breed more, so so long as the birth rate among republicans less the excess death rate outstrips the birthrate plus the excess survivial of the democrats then they will increase their vote share.

whether that's the case or not i don't know but they have other pokers in the fire. attacking education in multiple ways for instance. dragging the next generation down to their level.

Their well documented gerrymandering

Their attacks on the fabric of democracy itself. if you can't win elections, get rid of them.

Their stacking of the courts

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In true Republican fashion however, they've flubbed it. The youth is overwhelmingly for Democrats and outright loathes Republicans. Either controlling the poor hasn't turned out that effective for them*, or it's too early to see results. And in the meantime, they're killing their already aging and dwindling base.

*I think they've failed to brainwash young poor children. The vast majority of people I graduated high school with a decade ago, in the Midwest, have become clearly liberal and Democrat. Even the ones who were conservative in school.

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[–] Staccato@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republican politicians live by "I'll be gone, you'll be gone" at the end of the day.

They know the rest of us will be stuck holding the bag.

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[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They see science as an antagonist belief system to theirs. They don’t understand what science is and they don’t want to.

[–] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Isn't science just a prediction and utilization of observered phenomenon? Original sin is obtaining knowledge, aka don't question. It's so dumb

[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yea, I explain it to the lay folk as a tool for understanding our world, not a system of belief. However to most of these people ignorance is purity, so it’s an affront to them regardless.

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[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"BoTh SiDes ArE thE sAMe" - Half the posters on reddit and lemmy.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I, for one, respect their right to die early of easily preventable natural causes. I don't like that conservatives are a danger to everyone else, but they were deadly toxic long before Covid.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know some people on the left have to be the "better" person and all thay but honestly with all the damage republicans have and are doing, I honestly am happy they died of their own stupidity. Prevents them from doing more harm.

Fuckem.

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[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Cannibal_MoshpitV3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The movie was so good yet so horribly FRUSTRATING because it's way too fucking accurate

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact: that movie was made pre-COVID

[–] uberkalden@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit, I assumed most of it was direct satire of COVID

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Iirc it was a satire of their views on climate change.

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

everyone who votes Republican is as intentionally ignorant as possible, and you're all assholes because of it

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

a bare majority of Republicans told a Politico poll that they think the COVID vaccine is safe and effective — 52%, to be precise

Still somehow quite the indictment against Fox News.

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dumbasses love Google though. My anti-science anti-government dirtbag relatives cannot stand science but they use Google for everything because they’re dumb as fuck.

Without it they would never have been able to connect with other dumbasses “prepping” for the end times or whatever they think.

The world is so much better with them living where you can’t grow food.

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They've done this for 50 years, what makes this news?

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hope that they say no to medicine so that getting a GP gets easier.

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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Vaccination for covid is no guarantee you will not get covid. Being vaccinated helps with the chance you'll NOT go to the hospital over it or die. But there is still a possibility of it, but being vaccinated helps a lot

Everyone I know is vaccinated. There is one woman who still isn't and when she had covid she almost died. But she thinks the government is tracking people with the vaccine and it changes our DNA. She gets her news from Facebook post from the right.

Biden wants people to get the new covid vaccine when it gets approved.

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