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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 91 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, if he wins are they gonna postpone for 4 years?

[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 123 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Might as well just end the show at that point. Satire will have officially died. The Onion will probably turn into a reputable news source.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] match@pawb.social 17 points 2 months ago

seeing a google alert for that headline is a more reliable and rapid way to find out about a significant* mass shooting than any news site

*america is a garbage country with hundreds of unimportant mass shootings a year

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They dont need an excuse, they've made enough episodes, it time to close your eyes and rest now Trey

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They went so soft on Trump it's not even funny. Why the fuck did they make Garrison Trump? I think it was the biggest mistake south park ever made.

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago

Because Garrison is entirely goddamned deranged and it's funny, that's why.

[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Because nobody actually thought he would win.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They also mentioned that Paramount has also delayed things due to the streaming disputes. All espidoes will be available on Paramount in the USA come 2025. That seems convenient. Maybe they wanted to delay and Matt and Trey didn't push back.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it's right there in the article lol

While Parker admits that their decision also has to do with having to wait "for Paramount to figure all their s--- out," Stone notes that skipping Trump is definitely "on purpose."

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

You and I both know many aren't looking past the headline or comments.

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[–] reverendz@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They’re such wusses.

During W’s reign they used kid gloves. Always been like that with conservatives.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 27 points 2 months ago

Nah, they used Garrison as a trump standin for 4 seasons and shit on him pretty relentlessly. They’re just out of material

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol ok. Guess you missed the dozens of Trump bashing episodes.

[–] reverendz@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I have watched it off and on since it first aired and I can’t remember ever seeing Trump. In fairness I haven’t watched much the last couple years.

Mr. Garrison isn’t Trump, no matter how much they nod and wink.

Obama wasn’t portrayed by another character and neither was Bush and neither was Clinton.

Did they ever actually show Trump? Or was it bs Garrison as Trump?

Looked out of curiosity and seems the answer is no. Also, they literally said they were scared to make fun of him.

https://www.looper.com/966218/the-real-reason-south-park-laid-off-the-donald-trump-jokes/

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

"It's tricky now because satire has become reality," he said. "We were really trying to make fun of what was going on but we couldn't keep up, and what was actually happening was much funnier than anything we could come up with.

That is true though. Especially during his first candidacy when most outside the US never heard of him yet he seemed to have jumped right out of a caricature. We only stopped laughing when he actually won.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Ok, so it was Garrison in orange makeup, blond hair, Trump like voice and happened to be an asshole president. There is no winking and nodding, they are shoving it right in your face. You are just being pedantic, saying it wasn't. It was a stand in, to 100% without a doubt, represent Trump.

They didn't use "actual" Trump because that would require some weird plot devices to use on a constant basis when it's easier to use an existing character who has a history of being different people. It was done this way because it was funnier. Obama and Clinton and everyone else are used so sparingly that they could be the actual people because it made sense.

In regards to them being scared, have you seen how nutty the ultra MAGA right are? I'd be nervous portraying Trump too due to him being a giant crybaby and risk lawsuits, lawsuits that could risk my paycheck. They were never afraid of anyone else getting up in arms because everyone else knows how to take a joke, or at least knows enough not to piss off the public by going after the show. At the end of the day, they weren't scared enough to not do it. They felt that they had run the gag long enough and decided to move on.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Such a pathetic thing to say. Even if what they were saying was true, why does the show need to be about the election? Isn't it, like, a political comedy show? Aren't there other political issues to talk about? idk, I hate South Park anyway, but it seems like a remarkably stupid thing to say.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cause they have always been about pointing out the obvious, they can’t do that today cause the obvious is just sooooo obvious.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I see this being the thing too. Society is so fucking ridiculous that we're at the point you can't even satirize it.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Honestly after the treatment they gave Julian Assange and wikileaks I noped out; like honestly, criticizing wikileaks for exposing war crimes? Are they really this idiotic and vile?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

They are US libertarians. They should be anti war and anti government but they really aren’t.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For me it was ManBearPig, but I heard they changed after I lost interest.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

They apologized to Al Gore for that years later and told him he was right.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which episode? I missed that

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I looked it up and the episode is called 'bass to mouth'; they didn't directly insult assange, but the rat antagonist in it was called wikileaks.

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

This is what "creative defeat" looks like.

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What are they gonna do if Trump gets a second term? Just cancel themselves?

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[–] hashbrowns4life@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

we made fun of him, what more could we do?

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I might come out looking like a trump supporter and I am not and I'm also not an American. But I heard the show is a political satire so do they also make fun of biden every now and then? I saw some funny clips of the show about AI and thats it.

I know I'm gonna get downvoted but I want to clarify I'm just asking this cause they can have some content with that too. It's not like America has only 1 problem to make fun of. I read the article and it seems like it's more about "paramount" and their statement may just be for funsies. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I assume that you havent seen too many episodes and dont know too much about the history on south park. But they are known for making fun of everyone, and not selecting by a agenda. For example there is an episode about: Mormons, Scientology, a whole series of episodes on the "superheroes" around jesus, there is even an episode where a future civilization is fighting over the meaning of "AAA", which is a atheistic alliance (to hint on the idea, that there will still be war, even if religions go extinct).

The fact that they make fun of everyone is one of the reasons they stood so long.

Btw in the 2016 season, which they released weekly during the last months of the election, their portraial of Hillary Clinton is the one of an extraordinaly stupid and incompetent woman, while their Donald Trump doesnt even want to be president.

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[–] nte@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They make an episode in a weeks time, there are random episodes, but if they take something out of the news it's news, not history. They are not a political satire series, they pointed out what is wrong in society in general. First time trump was that dumb, it was hard to believe he would really be a serious candidate. They made fun of that, they took it to the top, so, they thought, but the top of their imagination lacks behind the reality we are in now. Biden is old news, trump is the only thing in the media, you can't make satire of trump, there is nothing more to point out.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

They've been around a long time, but a thing to consider is that in 2015 a great deal of people's entire political discourse was what was portrayed on South Park and/or The Daily Show-Colbert Report. Both on the Comedy Central channel.

They wielded far more influence than many realized.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Would be funny for thwm to just have the 5 second clip from Krazy Kripples.

'We're just satying out of this'

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its okay because we make fun of everyone. But only once

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they literally turned Garrison into a Trump parody and have run with it since 2016. Say what you will about their enlightened centrism in general, or their attitudes infecting a pretty large portion of Gen X and millennial men, it's been a lot more than once.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Contextually speaking, it would be an insanely boring show if they kept going back and making fun of the same people over and over again

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