I don’t think anyone is saying he’s good. They’re just saying “holy shit, even this this insane guy who is so bad is anti-Trump”
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He's evil af but intelligent and informed enough to know that his own personal well-being is better served by perpetuating the current system rather than forcing the nation into some dystopian MAGA authoritarian hell hole.
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Cheney is not a fascist.
Cheney is not a white supremacist.
Cheney respects the constitution.
Cheney is not a good guy.
Cheney is a ruthless piece of shit.
Cheney is a war criminal.
Cheney shot his friend.
All of the above are true statements.
Not super sure about the constitution one, but fairly on point.
Yeah, I'd argue that being a war criminal is kind of against the spirit of almost every constitution.
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who TF said he was good now, he's just jumping the ship before it fucking explodes.
Not even jumping ship, ship left without them.
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It’s possible to hate Dick Cheney’s politics but also to agree with him that Trump is an autocrat who attempted a coup, and that’s dangerous.
We also probably agree that a post-coffee morning shit is satisfying.
People forget conservative politics are deeply personal. Dick Cheney being anti trump has everything to do with Liz Cheney being canceled by MAGA and is largely probably not a principled stance
Literally nobody is saying this. You're full of shit.
I hate the NPC Wojack meme with an intense passion. It's such a strawman trap. All it does is reduce the opposition to unthinking robots so they can attacked on their credibility rather than the merits of their actual arguments.
In this case, the media isn't saying Dick Cheney is a good guy now because he endorsed Harris. They're saying it's a surprising stance to take for the former VP of a Republican administration. It would be like having Al Gore come out and endorse Trump for President.
OP is 100% full of shit and more like an NPC than any of these media outlets.
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Return2ozma ;)
It's like the shit-source these days.
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I think the real take away is that even Dick Cheney and Bernie Sanders agree Kamala Harris is the better candidate.
That's a big F'ng tent.
Conservatives are pretending they were always against Cheney. It's weird.
Conservatives are trying whatever they can to make people not vote for their opponents
can we get an actual quote of these sources supposedly saying he's a good guy? or are we supposed to just believe it cause someone photoshopped a speech bubble on a bunch of logos?
The rehabilitation of wealthy and powerful people with a disgusting past happens, not with fanfares and explicit exposition, but with gradual normalisation.
They are given platforms on respected media. Their opinion is sought on the current bête noire. They are given all this oxygen without ever having to account for their sins. All they have to do is play nice and rigidly follow the establishment consensus. Soon enough, once a commensurate (to the sins) amount of news cycles passes they'll be dignitaries again.
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It's like when The Joker realized Red Skull was an actual Nazi and Defected.
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The strategy of prominent Republicans flipping to vote for Harris is specifically designed to help Republicans win Congress.
If Republican voters are demoralized by the prospect of Trump, a lot are going to just stay home and not vote at all. That would lead to a Democratic electoral sweep.
Cheney and other Republican ghouls’ best option to avoid this is to give permission to their voting base to toss their Presidential vote to Harris, but also get them into the polls so they can be reliable Republican voters down the ticket and try to keep the House and take the Senate.
FFS, quit giving the enemy oxygen.
Just because someone aligns with any viewpoint does not make him a good guy.
See Stalin and soviets.
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Obligatory reminder that Dick Cheney literally does not have a heart or pulse: his heart was replaced by a continuous flow pump.
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Think of it as seeing rats abandoning a sinking vessel.
They've been saying it indirectly for several years with their fawning over his daughter who has near-identical policy positions.
Including with regards to torture and the Iraq war, which she's still calling necessary and beneficial.
Worst thing for Kamala's campaign was that endorsement IMO
I don't think so. The rapidly shrinking slightly-saner right will probably find it pretty convincing.
Anyone that wasn't convinced since 2020 is a barely sentient fungal lifeform.
Unfortunately it turns out that describes a lot of people.
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right media also switched him from bad to good now? doubt
Every president is a war criminal 😎
But some definitely more than others
William Henry Harrison wasn't a war criminal. At least not while he was president.
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I don't think Fox News is saying anything about him voting for Harris and if they are, it's not positive.
I think Cheney and most pre-Gingrich Republicans have a commitment to the preservation of the Constitution and the Republic. Once Gingrich the philanderer came in and switched the Republican Party into all partisanship mode, things changed and people who don't put the Constitution first started seeping into the party.
Cheney was an establishment in the party long before that, so he still has those values.
But a commitment to preserve and defend the Constitution is probably the only thing I have in common with him. I welcome him insofar as that. Harris will do that. Trump will not.
For example, I don't think it's cool to shoot your friends in the face with a shotgun. Also I'm not a big fan of wars for oil.
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Return2ozma
Ie made up garbage-tier agitprop.
No one is saying that "now he's a good guy".
Quite the opposite from what I've seen. They've been all saying "If Dick Cheney...one of the most divisive republicans of modern times, says that Trump is a threat...we should probably fucking listen."
It's like The Joker teaming up with Batman because even HE thinks The Riddler is "a bit much"
No.
If anything this shows that trump isn’t just evil, he is just bad, as in incompetent bad, or like, your idiot AND evil cousin Donny bad.
Not at all happening, he's just correct once
I think he's just less weird than most of his friends. I don't think we need to call him a good guy.
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