politics

This wins the night...

OMG Trump is off the rails and i absolutely love it!

Moderator: "Just to be clear, you have a plan? "

Trump: "I have concepts of a plan?"

In the post debate interview, Tim Walz just referenced Trump as an old man yelling at clouds. I love it.

"I have the concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now!"

Holy shit, dude. You biffed that one hard.

“Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.”

— Former President Donald J. Trump

"i'm a gun owner, we're not taking guns away." strongest opinion from a democrat i've heard on this topic.

So here are my thoughts:

• First, the obvious: Harris won handily. She was in her element, and just thoroughly excoriated Trump at every turn, while maintaining an optimistic tone.
• But at the same time, Trump is probably not losing any of his base over his abysmal performance. Most of them probably didn't watch, and the few that did probably tuned out in favor of reading conservative bloggers' desperate spinning about halfway through.
• The real question is how off-putting he's been for undecideds. He was pretty bad, but I'm aware enough of my own biases to wonder exactly how bad his behavior looks to undecideds.
• On the issues, Harris didn't really have a stumble. I was pleasantly surprised by how well she handled the issue of Israel/Palestine, for example.
• The moderators get a B for following up questions, a C- for mic handling, and an A- for calling it out when Trump's bizarre, rambling bullshit failed to even vaguely resemble an answer.

All in all, I didn't hate this (other than the sound of Trump's face hole).

From where I was sitting, it seemed like Harris beat the ever-loving-shit out him. He took every piece of bait she laid out. I'm not the target though, so I hope undecideds saw what I saw.

Harris exceeded high expectations and Trump failed to meet incredibly low expectations.

Let the spin begin, but I saw what I saw.

The take aways, there are illegals getting sent to jail for trans surgery that are then sent out to eat cats and abort born children near the Keystone Pipeline so that billions and millions and trillions of illegals can enter everyday.

Honestly, this comment is a bit crazy and stupid, but then I remember what I just watched and heard.

HE’S GOT CONCEPTS OF A PLAN, KIDS, SHIT I’M ALL IN

Trump claims he only used to be racist 40 years ago

There won't be another debate, lol.

"I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now" -Trump

"Those were your words."

"I dunno."

I live near Detroit. They are building an auto factory down the street from me where the Pistons used to play. That's not in Mexico

The articles leading up to this were great. The punditry about how Harris couldn't afford one little gaffe or she's sunk.

No one seemed to remember her from senate hearings. No one remembered that she was a fucking prosecutor. She made a career out of manipulating people into self-incrimination. Her livelihood was arguing people into corners they couldn't escape. Exposing lies was her bread and butter. And she had to do so in a way that made it crystal clear to a dozen randos who were too dumb to get out of jury duty.

And Trump is a stupid, vain, easily manipulated hothead who lies about everything.

And the audience was American voters.

This is familiar territory for Harris. She knows this place like the inside of her eyelids.

In case anyone has forgotten re Afghanistan:

Trump admitted that it was his own doing:

speaking at a rally on 26 June [2021, he] even stated that he “started the process” and claimed Biden “couldn’t stop it” if he “wanted to”.

Just wish moderators would have the spine to hold Trump to the rules and just keep his mic muted and move on.

Maybe it is in the benefit of Harris given his rambling but I don't know.

Whoops, he's debating Biden again.

"President Trump, thank you" sounds more and more like "Shut the fuck up now, bitch" every time a moderator says it.

Six years later, he still doesn't have the healthcare plan he promised in two weeks.

He has concepts!

Apparently, Taylor Swift just responded to AI fakes of her supporting Trump by formally endorsing Harris.

"so basically you still do not have a plan" 💀

Morning after thoughts:

• The memes from this one are already amazing. "Concepts of a plan" is going to haunt Trump until his dying day.
• Trump usually dominates any conversation he's in, simply by being the loudest one there. It often works for him. Last night, it worked against him, because he was loud about what Harris wanted him to be loud about.
• In retrospect, the level of optimism Harris was able to maintain throughout was very impressive. She looked happy to be there, even when confronted by Trump's obvious mental illness, and I don't think she was faking it.

I'm starting to have genuine hope for November.

The Harris campaign is asking about setting up the next debate. No response from the Trump camp so far.

Trump himself previously pushed for 3 debates. Let’s see what his handlers allow him to agree to after this disaster.

Old racist man yells at clouds.

I wish they just had 45min clocks, and whenever their microphone are hot, their timer goes down. It would be hilarious to see Trump yelling inaudibly for the last 25min of all debates.

"We are going to have the best economy, she is Joe Biden and we had the highest inflation we've ever seen" - Trump

"Let's compare your economic plan with mine, we're giving tax breaks to small business."

Also, going back to the previous point that Trump lied about several times, Harris nailing the rebuff of Trump's lies that usually just go unchecked on painting Harris as a person that wants to steal guns. Very good.

Also also, Trump's entire closing statement stated one positive thing he did (we rebuilt our military) and the rest of the time was saying why Harris was bad. Harris positioned herself well here.

Harris’s campaign needs to meme the shit out of these moments and sound bites. So much good material.

Moments after the presidential debate ended tonight, the Harris campaign called for a second debate, CNN reports.

Captivating speech from Kamala. I really hope Kamala wins this election

Harris has managed to remain optimistic this whole time. I'm genuinely impressed.

PREACH IT SISTAH!!

This fucker sold out the Afghan government and got soldiers killed because he's incompetent.

I don't know how anyone can watch this and not feel Trump is exposed as being nonsensical and vindictive. I feel hopeful that Kamala is changing plenty of undecided minds, though I wish she'd been able to expand more on policy and less on Trump's lies.