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It's impressive how duckduckgo manages to be so much better than bing despite being a frontend for bing

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 111 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Okay, totally off topic...what is it with this annoying trend of censoring a company/name with an asterisk when it's a subject of ire? It just bugs me - and not in a way that focuses my anger to Microsoft.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 53 points 6 days ago (2 children)

With stuff like Tesla and Twitter, it can keep away the weird nerds who search those terms in hopes of white-knight-sealioning a conversation into oblivion. I think it just became part of the lexicon.

[–] 2001aCentenaryofFederation@fedia.io 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The inverse of this is that people who filter out specific words in their feeds will be tricked into seeing it. You get to piss off 2 groups of people by doing it!

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] eldoom@lemmy.ml 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Have you ever heard a sea lion? They're super loud and they all get together and bark.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago

Ahahaha that’s great

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning

Sea-Lioning is an Internet slang term referring to intrusive attempts at engaging an unwilling debate opponent by feigning civility and incessantly requesting evidence to back up their claims. The term was coined in September 2014 by anti-GamerGate Internet users to mock perceived online discussion tactics employed by GamerGate supporters.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I like the classic Usenet “Micro$oft.” Producers of Microshaft Wind-blows.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 22 points 6 days ago

It conveys "I have such a disdain for that thing that I'm asterisking its name like it was a slur or swear word".

I'm not a big fan either, even if you can find some secondary roles for that (as keeping someone from finding it, like ilinamorato exemplified). It distracts the reader from what is being said to the author's personal opinion about what is being said.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's ironic, except for when we're talking about the Fr*nch. It's self aware humor that you're being ridiculous. The tone it's supposed to convey in situations like thisis that you're being hyperbolically obtuse.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 74 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And to add insult to injury...

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People are going to see this, so here's the answer.

Logitech's web UI is crap. See that tiny, unlabled triangle on the list on the left?

Click it and pick your OS version.

Then you get the download.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago (6 children)

How is Softonic still allowed to advertise it's literally Malware

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Wow reading through these comments makes me a little sad. Most people still don't know jack about search engines or how they differ under the hood, or eve just how to add them into your browser search bar. Looks like all the effort I put into that that simple search engine guide was in vain.

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[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Softonic be like every app you want we have it, even the non exist ones. But once you installed our apps you already have made a pact with the devil

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[–] bonegolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Softonic has to have made a deal with the SEO devil.

Non idea how their disgusting malware is always on top.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Borderline?

There's still DuckDuckGo, or Kagi if you are rich.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yes, and DDG has really been degrading over the last few months in quality of results imo.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago (10 children)

It’s gone really downhill ever since co-pilot

It’s hard to call it better than Google now

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

still looks better than the average Google search

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stract.com open search engine a guy built in his basement. It is not perfect but feels like Google used to in the late 90s, when you had real results

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[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I just use Google with uBlock Origin to get rid of adverts

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it's Microsoft. You don't need to edgelord censor yourself.

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[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Not to defend Bing in anyway, but I typed logitech unifying software and the first result is the download page on logitechs site.

I am not doubting you, but why is it so different for me? I see non of the ???? section, no ads, just a link at the top like you would expect.

What are you using or doing different?

[–] tal 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Do you have uBlock or some similar ad blocker installed?

EDIT: I went and looked myself. I do have an ad-blocker installed. I don't see the ad. But I do see more noise than OP (desktop, Firefox):

  • There's a set of steps at the top left telling me to download and install the software, which is what OP was complaining about.

  • At the top right, there's a large, blue button with a link that guesses incorrectly that I want to know about Logitech Unifying Receiver Pairing, and just sends me to another Bing search.

  • Beneath that, there are a list of several questions that Microsoft incorrectly thinks I might be wanting to task and their answers.

  • Then there are two "Explore more" links linking me to pages describing how to pair with the software. One appears to link to "logi.com" with apparently is a Logitech business support page that links to the software, albeit only the Mac version, which I'd guess isn't what OP wanted.

  • Back on the left, I have what appears to be an AI spam question-answer site at thewindowsclub.com and another page on "how to unify" at robots.net.

  • Beneath that, I have a link to the Logitech download section. So it's in my top results and on my laptop, visible on the first screen of results, though beneath some not-really-desirable stuff.

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[–] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 days ago

Need to enshittify it enough to make the AI features feel like an improvement.

[–] qwet@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Here's the UBlock filters for a better experience, on this day, 12-9-2024. Sadly, the results are still bing results, and the MS data vacuum is still in effect. (there's a chance this get's filtered cause of all the urls, so if there's nothing below, oh well, woulda been nice, huh.

edit, image now

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 12 hours ago

Also try to use Firefox (or a fork of Firefox) together with uBlock origin.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago

Can you paste as text?

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Mainstream search engines (google and bing) are completely useless. Alternatives ftw.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't call bing mainstream

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[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does Microsoft’s compare to M*crosoft’s?

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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)
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[–] binom@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (11 children)

tbf it seems to be a common issue with search engines atm. brave also has the stupid ai response topmost, and startpage without adblock pushes in so many sponsored results that you need to scroll to get to anything else

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

At least what you are looking for, is on the first page. With Google you get half a page of ads not relevant to your search, and two pages of SEO garbage, before you get to a relevant search.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (11 children)

And they force windows users to not use chrome

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