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If your friends ask what youre doing, just tell them that youre a French chef.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"Sous vide" doesn't mean "enclosed in plastic;" it means "under vacuum." It doesn't fucking work if there's air between the food and the container!

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Suck out the air before tying the knot. Got it!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

I mean, yes, but usually people would use a ziploc bag and straw instead of a condom.

Another strategy that works without a vacuum pump is to submerge all but the opening of the bag in the water, so that the water pressure forces most of the air out, before sealing it.

I love traditional French vacuum sealed plastic techniques.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Not actually true, you just won't reach your target temperature evenly and it may discolor certain preparations.

The reason you remove air is to make better heat contact, you don't need a vacuum unless you are cooking things that oxidize stupidly easily.

[–] Snailpope@lemmy.world 85 points 3 days ago

Condoms doing what they were made for. Keeping the weiner juices in

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yum, extra microplastics 🤤

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So many people think condoms are made out of plastic. Weird.

[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

Hypoallergenic condoms are made out of vinyl.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

A lot of lemmiers (lemmings? Lemmists?) have only meme contact with condoms.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

how traditional is something that involves plastic???

[–] sorter_plainview 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's not traditional. Also it's not similar to the pic. It was invented in the 1970s by a French Chef. The technique involves "vacuum sealed" ingredients, ensuring there is no air between the ingredient and water. Water is kept at a constant temperature, much lower than usual cooking temperature, and the ingredients are cooked for a very long time.

End result is an evenly cooked ingredient with full moisture content. But there won't be any browning (Maillard reaction), which is key in many recipes.

[–] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

It makes very good food (mostly meat) and due to above observation many sous vide recipes call for a quick sear at the end of cook time.

Ideally it's done with specific bags designed to be used at high temperature, even if the temperatures aren't as high as oven temps.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don't forget the part where it's held at almost-ready temps for a long time. Having worked a restaurant - but thankfully FoH - I've seen the struggle when a dish is ruined and you're serving 7 plates while the kitchen is crunching to make the redo 8th.

Having something that can be seared and served is likely fantastic.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It’s latex!

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

As explained by another its kinda shit anyways. But to answer the question, this sort of thing would have been done using leathery parts of animal intestines before plastic was a thing. Just like with sausages.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

"Sous vide is high-tech haggis" is not the revelation I expected to have today.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The benefit of sous vide for a restaurant is you can hold multiple steaks at rare and give them a quick sear when ordered. The soaking breaks down the collagen which ultimately makes the steak tender.

However, for a home cook a reverse sear will give a superior steak. It will similarly break down the collagen, but also creates a nice crust that sous vide can't create.

Restaurants don't reverse sear because it's unpredictable and takes too much time.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

could also be done with ceramics (like beggar's chicken)

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Boiling plastic... Doesn't seem safe

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What if I told you that nearly every canned food or sealed tetrapak carton you can buy on the shelves was essentially sealed with plastic and boiled, sometimes under pressure that allows it to get even hotter than regular boiling temp?

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Cooked in the can, like sweet grandma Sue used to!

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

To be fair, it's a ridiculously inert polymer

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

You're a madman!

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Latex, actually.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

lol it's not but with how much is EVERYWHERE the little you get from the food is less than what the packaging of the food already put in it.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Cooking hot dogs in condoms? Ok I guess. Seems like a waste of condoms.

Ribbed for her pleasure

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Jokes aside, when I visited Europe. My host family made a sous vide soup.or something like that for me and I never could figure out what it was actually called. All I know is it was fucking delicious and it was the first time I had ever had boiled bacon. It was amazing.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

dont talk about my mami

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

thanks, i hate it

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Latex is not plastic, it comes from trees and your body doesn't care.

Otherwise you really screwed up chewing all that bubble gum as a kid (which contains latex).

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

This used to be how tacobell made their ground beef 2005?