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Element is launching the world’s first communications platform based on the upcoming Matrix 2.0 release. The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives - across a decentralised system that enables self-hosting and end-to-end encryption - as well as open standard interoperability to revolutionise real time communication between large organisations.

Built on Matrix 2.0, Element X now rivals the performance of centralised consumer messaging apps, empowering organisations to address the shadow IT issues caused by consumer-grade messaging apps in the workplace.

The new Element communications solution consists:

  • Element X, our next-gen app with an array of new features
  • Element Call fully integrated into Element X, for native Matrix-encrypted voice and video
  • Element Server Suite, our backend hosting solution for powerful admin control and Matrix 2.0 performance
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[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Has anyone tried the new app?

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

I'm trying it now, seems okay so far. I tried it a few months ago and it was unusable, so it's improved.

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Store reviews are 2.4 / 5 why the poor reception

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Have you read the reviews?

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

Just now, sounds like it's feature incomplete, still I am curious if I missed anything big

[–] azron@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"invisible cryptography" I sure hope this isn't an empty promise. The number one gripe I have with matrix/element is the absolutely horrendous crypto dance they make you do.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's probably the number one reason I can't convince friends to move over, I know they would bawk at how it makes them do that on every device

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago

while I agree that there are too many problems right now, 2 things really can't be avoided:

  • setting up key backup after registration asap
  • verifying your new logged in devices, possibly with the key backup password

well, unless they are fine with using it like signal, which is basically one device only

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives

I highly doubt that. At last the last version of it (released earlier this year) that supported my previous phone I'm pretty sure was more sluggish than telegram.
And even though it's not really a visible problem on my new one, and even though that I can't check it's resource usage anymore (thanks again google for fucking uo /proc! it was a huge idea!), it still means that it uses more battery power

[–] Untold1707@lemm.ee 2 points 54 minutes ago

Native Sliding Sync (AKA Simplified Sliding Sync) was just released to Synapse and Element X over the past couple of weeks. It’s not an exaggeration to say that it is FAST now. My fairly large account usually syncs instantly now. If not instant, the longest I’ve seen was 1 second. Give Element X a try again (assuming your home server supports SSS).

[–] refalo@programming.dev 5 points 5 hours ago
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The last time I used element x was probably a couple months ago and I wouldn't really call it 'production ready'. But I guess I'll have to try it again.

[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 hour ago

I still don't think it's there, but development hss been fast, so a lot has changed and improved in the last couple of months.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t like what I see in the iOS app stores privacy section for the app.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Element is able to use features called "Integration Manager" and "Identity Server". When using an Identity Server, you can choose to link name, email, and phone number to your Matrix account. When using an Integration Manager, there's a feature to share your location with others in chat.

As such, Vector discloses that they "collect this information", although (except some diagnostics), this is completely optional.

(I am not associated with Vector, just interested in Matrix)

[–] grimer@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ah interesting ok. So basically even though it CAN link all of that info to you and such doesn't mean that it WILL if you opt out of things. Is that correct?

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Correct, Vector does not receive this information unless you willingly share it with them.

[–] grimer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok thank you

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Strange. I could only find vector settings in the regular Element app. And even stranger, it prompts me with “Accept Identity Server Terms” but if I tap on the identity server option it says “You are currently using vector…”. I also cannot disconnect unless I accept the terms. I really wish all of this was more clear.

[–] grimer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sweng@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What do you find WTF about it?

[–] grimer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That’s a lot of data collection.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What's matrix 2.0? Are they finally gonna use the go backend as opposed to the python one?

[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 hour ago

Not exactly. Matrix 2.0 relates to the protocol (Matrix) version, which has its major number incremented due to a bunch of, well, major changes/updates to make it much better. OIDC, sliding sync and native calls are some of the new things that comprise the 2.0 update.

The server implementations are somewhat orthogonal to this. Synapse (the original Python server) is still the main implementation, and is Matrix 2.0 ready.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah its not clear to me what matrix 2.0 is either, seems like spec changes? Nothing here about synapse (the python matrix server), or the go one.

[–] sweng@programming.dev 5 points 4 hours ago

Yeah its not clear to me what matrix 2.0 is either, seems like spec changes?

Yes, Matrix is the protocol. Element is one of many clients supporting said protocol, and synapse is one of many servers supporting said protocol.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago