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JD Vance was roundly mocked online over a trip to the supermarket where he bemoaned the steep price of eggs — and botched the photo opp.

The Republican vice presidential nominee stopped by a supermarket in Reading, Pennsylvania, with his sons over the weekend to illustrate how grocery prices have been impacted by “Kamala Harris’s policies” when he claimed a dozen eggs cost $4.

The problem? When footage of the visit emerged, Vance was quickly called out by viewers who spotted the price tag of a dozen eggs behind him was actually $2.99.


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[–] tal 171 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

I mean, I think that he's got a valid broader point that egg prices haven't been great for a couple of years.

However...that's not really due to anything that Biden has done, much less Harris.

A lot of it was due to major avian flu outbreaks:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bird-flu-outbreak-egg-prices-2024/

April 24, 2024

A multi-state outbreak of avian influenza, also known as bird flu, is leading to a jump in the price of eggs around the U.S. — an unhappy reminder for consumers that a range of unforeseen developments can trigger inflation.

As of April 24, a dozen large grade A eggs cost an average of $2.99, up nearly 16% from $2.52 in January, according to federal labor data. The price increase comes as nearly 9 million chickens across Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico and Texas have been discovered to be infected with bird flu in recent weeks, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. That is crimping egg supplies, leading to higher prices.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/egg-prices-rise-bird-flu-farm/

September 9, 2024

LONG LAKE, Minn. — Minnesota shoppers may be experiencing some sticker shock as eggs again emerges as a hot commodity.

According to the USDA, the average wholesale price for a dozen large Grade A eggs reached $4.26 in the Midwest region. That's up $0.09 since last week, but up roughly 20% compared to what was recorded in last summer's consumer price index.

"I'm not surprised by the volatility," Loree Kinney, store director at the Orono Market explained. "There's volatility in milk, there's volatility in dairy products, and in meat. There's not much you can do about the supply and demand."

Indeed, economists have for months pointed to a bird flu outbreak as a key reason for dwindling supplies of eggs across the U.S. coming from major producers.

You can't really lay that much at Harris's feet, though.

I do kind of wonder how practical it would be to have some company just store powdered eggs if the prices are going to be jerking around that much. Can't do a sunny-side-up egg or anything like that, but for baking, it should be fine.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 87 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (13 children)

Exactly. Egg prices have gone up in large part because factory farming is unsustainable and we're starting to see that with flu outbreaks. Who'da thunk.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago

Yup. The issue with factory farming, processing, and prep / serving isn't tha chemikuls, it's e. coli, salmonella, hep A, and in this case, avian flu.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

Thing is, Biden has been paying farmers for their losses and ramping up inspections to detect and stop spread.

Egg prices would be even worse if Biden was sitting on his ass. We’d have even more of a supply and demand discrepancy.

But, maybe Trump wants to propose injecting chickens with bleach.

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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

Quote: "now a dozen eggs will cost you around four dollars thanks to Kamala Harris' inflationary policies".
Checks source: Average cost $4.10.

Edit: I’ve updated this post to reflect the point of it being posted in News.

The problem? When footage of the visit emerged, Vance was quickly called out by viewers who spotted the price tag of a dozen eggs behind him was actually $2.99.

– Vance is being called out for saying eggs cost around $4 while standing in front of eggs that costs $3 when in fact the average cost for eggs he is standing in front of is $4.10.

I hate that this is the bullshit we spend our time arguing over.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

good post. i hate vance and I don't think inflation is bidens fault but i wish everyone would stop acting like clowns.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

i wish everyone would stop acting like clowns.

Don't hold your breath. It's been this dumb for as long as I can remember.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Strong agree. I think most people just go for the low hanging fruit because they don't actually care enough to be invested in policy. The vast majority of "news" is just trash to generate clicks and engagement and we all suck it up like calorie-free frappaccinos.

I posted earlier in response to his full comment regarding the "inflation explosion act". This is something worth reading about - that the Inflation Reduction Act has not had any immediate impact on inflation to date (up or down). Others here have accurately commented about the disease spreading across poultry farms which has most impacted the costs of eggs in particular.

It's also worth pointing out that bird flu is increasingly having an impact on cattle. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/09/bird-flu-is-spreading-rapidly-in-california-infected-herds-double-over-weekend/ So, expect dairy prices to slowly and steadily increase.

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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 96 points 5 days ago (14 children)

He said his three kids—7,4 and 3 years old—eat “14 eggs every single morning”. Either he’s an idiot or the toddlers are training to fight Dolph Lundgren.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago

Pictured: one of Vance’s kids

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I am sure the actual quote is even stupider than I can imagine but:

Three kids. Let's assume 3 sunny side up eggs for him, 7, and 4. That gets 9. Then whatever his couch eats so let's say 10-11. Then another 3 or 4 for a "big pile of scrambled eggs" for the 3 year old and for the 4 year old to actually eat because yucky runny eggs. And then whatever his servants are able to sneak off to feed themselves.

It is very reasonable for a household that doesn't care about money or food waste.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean .... Vance is an idiot, but I have three boys. Between me, my wife, and my three kids, we each eat 2-3 eggs worth of scrambled eggs some mornings. 5x2 is 10, 5x3 is 15. That's right in line with his claims, if he counts himself and wife, which he probably is and just being an idiot again.

That said, I don't have eggs EVERY DAY. FFS my cholesterol would be sky high. I do buy 10-15 dozen eggs at a time, though, because the local farmer's market sells 15 dozen for $25-30 and eggs will keep for 6-10 weeks in the fridge that is consistently the same low, near freezing temp (perfect for the outdoor, secondary fridge).

[–] subignition@fedia.io 24 points 5 days ago (5 children)

FFS my cholesterol would be sky high.

Cholesterol intake is not directly correlated with blood cholesterol. Eat all the eggs you want. The bigger problem is saturated and trans fat.

Further, in the specific circumstances where eggs are the source of dietary cholesterol, an improvement in dyslipidemias is observed due to the formation of less atherogenic lipoproteins and changes in HDL associated with a more efficient reverse cholesterol transport. However, if the cholesterol sources are consumed with saturated and trans fats, as happens in the Western diet pattern, increases in plasma cholesterol may be observed.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 66 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Why is this dude this bad at being a politician? I feel like if you pick a random person off the street and swapped places with Vance, they would have more charisma, and also more experience with groceries and donut shops.

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

His only job will be to do what Pence wouldn't

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah at the time he was picked it was purely a gesture of goodwill towards Vance's techno-capitalist sponsors (Thiel and co). I am confident trump thought they had it in the bag against sleepy Joe and his team wasn't thinking too hard about strategy at the time.

Now they're scrambling but it doesn't seem to be working. they'll probably just try another coup after the election

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Instructions unclear...JD runs toward the gallows

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Why is this dude this bad at being a politician?

Because he's literally an idiot.

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

It's only one banana, what could it cost. Ten Dollars?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 70 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Why did Kamala Harris choose for there to be an avian flu epidemic that led to many bird deaths/culling? I can't believe she'd write that into policy!

The lying about the price aside, fucking morons, I swear to god.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Do we know that's actually the reason the prices doubled (and is jt still a valid reason)? Or is it mostly just unchecked gouging like almost all other groceries?

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago

First one, then the other, and that's why Kroger is getting their asses sued off by the FTC under Biden appointee Lina Khan. The avian flu issue was a legitimate supply/demand squeeze for a little while, until it wasn't, and Kroger didn't back down an inch, so the FTC is stepping in.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It's probably both. You find an excuse to raise prices, you build in some extra margin so you only have to raise the price in one big go instead of smaller increments that better reflect market prices. Your competitors do the same, and you just tell everyone there's nothing you can do, it's just inflation.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Well I mean you can get eggs for $4. You don't have to, but you can. It depends on how well you want the chickens to be treated.

I mean don't get me wrong, Vance is still a fucking tool. But the prices of premium products do not reflect the prices of what the average working class consumer can afford.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You can get eggs for $10,000 if someone is willing to charge that much and you're willing to pay it.

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

It depends on how well you want the chickens to be treated.

Sounds like legislative skill isssue.

I forgot the current Vice President was the person to enact policy that directly raises egg prices. It has nothing to do with consumer price gouging and corporate greed. Nosiree.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

James "JD Vance" Bowman is either the dumbest man alive, or it's a 7D plan to sabotage the Trump campaign

Either is possible

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Republican challenge impossible: Speak any sentance without lying.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Is JD Vance wearing eyeliner? He looks like a poor Tim Minchin impersonator.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I remember reading somewhere that it was likely something he picked up from his wife, as it is apparently not uncommon in India?

That could have been a lie, but honestly who cares how the guy chooses to dress or present? His views and words are toxic enough that we don’t need to resort to personal attacks on his appearance; calling him and his ilk ‘weird’ is more cutting to them than anything else.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 4 days ago

I mean, he probably shouldn't be talking about drag queens.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"Kamala Harris’s policies"? Well, I guess we don't need an election is she's already in office making these policies exist in reality.

This isn't anything new, I've seen GOP defenders in comments say the same thing. For some reason she's already doing things outside the VP job just because she's running for President. They sure forgot Biden fast, as well as things put into place by their favored Trump when he was slashing and burning in office. It's the old "look at the gas prices" ignorance.

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[–] mineralfellow@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's one banana, Michael. How much can it cost?

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[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 16 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The conservative folks I talk to always, always, always bring up the price of eggs and the price of gas when they are talking about how bad the economy is these days.

I've heard "Groceries have doubled in price." many times. Obviously I can't prove that's not true for them, but then I ask what items that they buy regularly have doubled in price? The answer: "Eggs".

Okay, so what else, I know that eggs alone do not make up your entire grocery bill? "Everything". That's pretty much all I get.

Even if they can tell me a few more things that have doubled in price, it's basically going to be outliers or things I know for a fact they rarely/never buy. Like when it comes to the eggs, they'll make claims like "eggs are $10 a dozen", but when pressed about it, you find out they're talking about the gourmet premium brand that's always been way more expensive than the cheap ones and which they've never purchased in their entire lives.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Okay but groceries actually have doubled in price. Where they're wrong is the blame. They blame Biden, who actually got the trust busting stick out. While giving a pass to GOP leaders who just keep blaming the poor while grocery chains gleefully price gouge us.

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[–] TheFin@leminal.space 4 points 4 days ago

He's been out of touch since he left the valley

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Wow, not even in the Oval Office yet and Kamala is already fiddling with the "egg prices" dial on the Resolute desk.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks to Kamala Harris’s inflationary policies

She's VP. She doesn't have to power to increase egg prices even if she wanted to. They really don't know how to run against anyone but Biden, huh?

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 11 points 5 days ago

Facts don't matter for the maga crowd. Only feelings. And they feel that eggs are 4 USD. Therefore eggs are 4 USD, despite evidence to the contrary.

They also don't want solutions, they only want to complain. Which is why trump and vance are still good for them.

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