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0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad. He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov fucked him over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

feels like a conspiracy theory

I've had libs tell me my talk of the ruling class/bourgeoisie is conspiratorial...so for libs it's 100% true. Anything that deviates from the end of history is sacrilege to a liberal.

Obligatory Michael Parenti

The horrible thing is that leftism is all about a conspiracy, a conspiracy of capitalists to secure their capital at all costs.

Justin Trudeu as Fidel's son is the only conspiracy theory you need

its a great time to be a conspirator when the word conspiracy is synonymous with delusion

fascism is when the conspiracy theories are based on fictitious recounting of mundane events to blame unrelated phenomena on a minority group/social class.

communism is when the conspiracy theories are based on factual events simply told from the perspectives of the social classes which suffered from them the most.

liberalism is when you're the one creating the conspiracies.

Sometimes it does feel that way when you're being bombarded by some bourgeois media propaganda trying to convince you that your eyes don't see, your ears don't hear and your brain can't think for itself. But then you see the proof of what communists have been saying, day after day, somehow still not convincing enough people but pushing more and more of them into the right direction.

It's an uphill battle and will always be as long as the ruling class owns the media, education, and all the other subtle ways that public opinion can be manipulated to serve the status quo. But it's one that we ought to keep fighting and get as much of the working class as we can to question the system and dare to imagine that capitalism is not the end of history.

You have to remember that the ruling class are defined by their relation to capital. They are still a collection of individuals, whose goals are aligned do to their ownership of the means of production. Just in the same way the working class is defined in relationship to the ruling class and their lack of control of the means of production.

What does the ruling class want with AI? They want profits. The AI vendors want profits for their designs. The venture capitalists want a return on their investments. The managerial class want to cut labor costs and prove to their executive bosses they can "innovate" while making the company "lean". Those executives want to see the profits of their companies go up, by what ever means they can.

I think its dangerous to imagine that every ruling class figure is putting on a play for us. There are going to be true believers, who are blind to the limitations the demands of capital put on them. Even if they fail, the Capitalist system ensures they never experience consequences for their short sightedness. This only reinforces their worldview and allows them to try again.

Not everyone in the ruling class agrees with what needs to be done with their collective ownership of the means of production. They are all in competition with each other in some capacity. None of them have a long view of the world. They're all trying to be a middle man providing solutions to capitalism's failings or turning existing things into services to sell back to other capitalists.

They genuinely believe they are supporting the best system ever created. They genuinely think that working people are to stupid to understand how great the system is. It is because they believe and are told the same mythology about Capitalism, except they are the rule, not the exception. They never experience the system from the outside, or from a lower cast. So to them the myths are facts and truths.

They don't have a collective vision for the world. That's antithetical to their worldview. They are a disorganized group of self propagandized lords. They are all driven by the same social relations of capital, which gives them the appearance of collective operations, but the reality is most of them are simply coming to the same conclusion about how to preserve their hord. Or they hire consulting firms that provide them these conclusions for a fee.

I mean just look at the current scandal around these algorithmic rental pricing services. These are bourgeoisie selling other bourgeois a service to fix rental prices. The people who created the service had to know what they were doing. The early adopters had to know what it was doing. But countless midsized to small size landlords were to fucking stupid, lazy, and greedy to know they were engaging in rent fixing, and actually needed the service to do the rent calculus because they, again, are to dumb to do it themselves.

Do not do these people the service of believing they are as smart, cunning, and calculated as they would lead you to believe.

I feel this as well. My partner thinks that ai will be the great equalizer, making a post-scarcity world, but all I can think of is how the bourgeois will use it to hurt and control us. Especially here in burger land, where our government refuses to do anything about it.

live the rest of my life in a constant state of dread for the famine and slaughter that is already inevitable

I mean this is in the most gentle and comradely way possible, but this incomplete. Because what you're really seeing as the third option is:

live the rest of my life in a constant state of dread for the famine and slaughter that is inevitably going to happen to me

Because the sad fact is, that shit's already happening to people across the globe, and at some level probably even in your own back yard to indigenous peoples. That's the shit we try not to think about even though it's what fuels this nightmare machine we're living in. Many of us are just as much in denial as Libs are, and I cannot emphasize how much that be can epitomized in the "Back to Normal" rhetoric. Normal is currently an extra 5% Social Murder a day compared to pre-2019 levels. And that's a conservative estimate. Normal is our dreams of what we thought our life was going to be under Capitalism as a freaking wage slave. And when the Conglomeration Nation had to shut down for a few months over a viral infestation, instead of looking for the opportunity to deal the final blow, most of us were looking for reasons to get back to our fur lined chains and get back to work.

That's what I stress about. I read probably more history than theory, but because of that I often look at the lives of revolutionaries and martyrs, who were just Normal People. I look at what they were willing to sacrifice to fight for their comrades, in order build something greater than this nightmare we live in, and I wonder if I'm ever gonna be able to step the fuck up. Or, if I'm just gonna let them do all the shit to my friends and family that I've been ignoring across the globe so I can pretend we're not in a Class War.

Nope because it actually makes more sense to me than the “mainstream” pov of how the world works.

To the working class it doesn’t sound like a conspiracy theory because they experienced it everyday on their own personhood.

Capitalism is a conspiracy theory that requires zero conspiracy. It can function identically through class interest alone.

The concept of a "conspiracy theory" (and the belief in it being supposedly wrong) was invented by the cia to discredit those who realized what the cia was doing

Cranky "conspiracy theories" were seeded by the cia as well, to discredit the real truthfinders via association

POV: You were raised in the west

Sounds like you need to

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But seriously, find a better balance by putting the fear into some kind of regular praxis. Doing something—anything—can alleviate the constant worry while also making you less likely to seek out the content that pushes us all into that state of dread.

It’s good that leftism has the veil of ‘conspiracy’ because all our theory and anal isis is depressing enough as they are

I think it all comes down to the E-crisis

The collusion is there and you will either be confused by it or dismayed by it.

If you are dismayed by it, you can either retreat from it, or you can take part in a counter-conspiracy.

What the fuck