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[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 152 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wanted to learn more so i went looking for an article. Heres a pretty good write up. https://www.sciencealert.com/flowers-are-spreading-in-antarctica-as-summer-temperatures-soar

TLDR: Lots of flowering plants, moss and algae spreading. In March, temperatures near the south pole reached 39 °C above normal for three days in a row, hitting a peak of -10 °C (14 °F). Warm enough for researchers to walk around in shorts and shirtless....In Antarctica. Yeah were fucked.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find it hilarious that they're like "It's 14F! Break out the shorts and T-shirts!" Meanwhile anyone anywhere else (except the Arctic regions) is like "This is pretty fucking cold".

[–] spauldo@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It likely feels warmer. Antarctica is almost entirely desert. The "dry heat" argument works for cold, too.

I've been outside in a t-shirt and jeans in northern Greenland (also polar desert) when it was below freezing and was completely comfortable. I could have hung around out there all day if the day wasn't four months long. I like the cold and I've got extra mass to keep me warm, though.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suspect the sunshine bouncing off all the snow helps too

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm from the North East US and it gets pretty damn humid here (somehow it's been more humid than places with a tropical climate like Miami, Florida), which extends into the winter. The high humidity, combined with low temperatures (0-35F, not including wind chill) and moderate winds means a damn cold winter.

I was out in Denver, Colorado a few years ago during the late fall, early winter. They had a freak snowstorm which dropped their temperature from like 65F to 25F over night. I didn't know what to bring so I brought all my winter gear. I got there and was like "This is nothing!" because the humidity was low. I was outside in jeans and a heavy/double lined hoodie and was fine. Normally in NYC I'd be wearing an Arctic level jacket due to the wind and humidity.

My buddy was in the army and stationed in Fairbanks, Alaska. After being there for a year he came home for Christmas and showed up at my house in shorts, sandals, and a hoodie. It was like 30F, he said it felt like summer to him 😂

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[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

I had hoped you just missed a decimal point but it seems you did not.

I've lived on the coast of Australia most of my life, but I moved a good couple of hundred kilometres inland last year. I'm really looking forward to having waterfront property again pretty soon.

Hell, it's already too hot for human habitation here most of the year. I might as well enjoy the view before I croak.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn researchers walking around in shirts at -10°C??

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A reminder for context: it's not summer yet in Antarctica. Summer doesn't start until December. It's still supposed to be cold.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

instead of adding ice this winter, they lost ice. during antarctic winter.

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 1 year ago (7 children)

so what are you fellas gonna do after the water wars?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

raiders can have a little pillage as a treat

[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

After???? Are you all planning on surviving the after wars? I’ll probably be taken out by a rusty nail after medical breaks down.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d be dead pretty quick without insulin assuming adhd doesn’t kill me first

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? My RA won't kill me without meds, but I'll wish it would. Now my regular infections and allergic reaction on the other hand...

[–] Flughoernchen@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My migraine won't kill me either, but being completely knocked out every five or so days isn't going to do me much good either.

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[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

There's people who see the world all lowering birth rates and predicting a heavily geriatric global population in 50 years time, and who are already starting the "live life, suicide by 60" death cult mentality. The water wars would just kill even more young people, so I'm afraid this death cult thing is going to be more fact than fiction.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I need to stop being scared to get my bad teeth pulled.

Might have to do it the old fashioned way if I don’t do it now, that is if I survive it.

My god I’m miserable. What kind of coward is more frightened of dentists than this hell?

You're not cowardly for fearing dentists. The medical industry is one of the reasons why society broke down.

As someone with t1, I’d just die in 3-4 days without medication. It’s like a handy auto-self destruct.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After? Probably still be corpsing. I just hope I can take some rich fucks with me before I go.

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[–] ranoss@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Time to start canning the dryland.

[–] Asnabel@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Probably going to be dead after few days of war starting.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Dunno, but im going to start collecting books

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I plan to volunteer with a corporation in the bio wars after that!

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah let's go heat death

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[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not entirely our fault, it is of course in part because of global warming, but there was a volcano that erupted that punched a hole in the ozone layer above Antarctica

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hole in the ozone layer is more our fault than the volcano's. The volcano was what disturbed the ozone layer (it's pretty high up there,) but the reason that the hole didn't naturally close is that we were using CFCs in aerosol cans, and those were destroying so much ozone that the hole stuck around for 25 years and gave penguins cancer. It's literally the only major change we have made in regards to climate change, and it worked! The hole is now almost closed. Moral of the story: you want any real action on climate change? Take UV lamps and give penguins skin cancer. Then the dumb apes will pay attention

[–] countflacula@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This gave me a horrible visual of someone holding a penguin and a UV Lamp threatening oil execs in a boardroom

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you could bludgeon a penguin, a puppy, a kitten, a child to death with a dildo every day in the board room and oil execs would end up cheering if they could make an extra dollar out of it.

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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What flowers? New species or one that crossed the ocean?

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.sciencealert.com/striking-expansion-of-two-antarctic-flowering-plants-is-a-climate-warning

From the article:

Flowering plants in the Antarctic region are rapidly expanding, scientists say, indicating the continuing effects of climate change on the continent. The findings suggest we may have reached a tipping point in this fragile, remote ecosystem.

A new study of this plant expansion looked at the two flowering plants native to Antarctica, Deschampsia antarctica and Colobanthus quitensis. Researchers measured the growth and expansion of these plants on a small subantarctic island called Signy Island from 2009 to 2019.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok just wondering if it was some long frozen plantlife that just thawed out recently.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Nah just two full months earlier than it should have happened

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some seeds are carried place to place on the winds. They probably came from Australia or southern Chile or Argentina or some such place.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've been doing that for a decade

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah pretty sure flowers would have already had to have been there to be blooming. Not a lot of birds migrating to Antarctica spreading seeds.

[–] Banana_man@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about African swallows?

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well, I think in this instance, European swallows seen more likely given the distance, but either way, we'd probably need to consider them laden swallows for the purpose of our calculations...

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

That made me curious and it looks like yes, birds do migrate there: https://polar-latitudes.com/wildlife/migratory-birds/

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Important notice: Fossil fuel companies have shifted the narrive they push from "climate change isn't real" to "climate change is real but there's nothing we can do about it". We can absolutely do something about it: fight it like the existential threat that it is. Whatever power you can levy in life whether at home, at work, at the voting booth, with your investments, or in the streets: use it.

[–] michaelrose@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is literal fake news. Climate change is certainly a thing. Flowers blooming in Antarctica currently is not. Careful about spreading lies if we clothe the truth(climate change) in lies dumb people will think its all lies.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/10/07/false-claim-photo-shows-flowers-blooming-in-antarctica-fact-check/71067338007/

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

This is literal fake news. Climate change is certainly a thing. Flowers blooming in Antarctica currently is not.

Uhm, your own source says differently though?

While a 2022 study did find a global warming-related expansion in the range of two Antarctic flowering plants, the photo does not show those plant species.

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