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[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 87 points 9 months ago

Honest-to-God question: is Elongated Muskrat intentionally screwing up Twitter so people can’t use it as a means to communicate? It sounds like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, but it’s the only logical thing I could think of at this point that explains this kind of stuff they’re pulling.

[-] SecUnit451@beehaw.org 26 points 9 months ago
[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 9 months ago

Honestly, that gives Elon just an easy out, making him look as if he is actually competent. Which he is not.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 9 months ago

daily reminder that elon doesn't work on rockets or cars, HIS EMPLOYEES FUCKING DO THAT.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago

In the way that no boss, manager or team leader works on anything, as they "just" order workers around. You really think his employees came up with something as dumb as the cybertruck on their own?

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[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's addressed in the alt text:

It's remarkable how much nicer the world is when you imagine all bad actions are made in pursuit of higher ends.

Edit: The extra panel, too.

[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago

Removing the Like button means you can't be Ratio'd anymore, even compared to the comments of your detractors. That means vile, unpopular opinions will no longer be identifiable by the lack of likes. They get to stand on equal footing with popular opinions, with the average person none the wiser. Also, advertisements take one more step to being indistinguishable from organic posts.

Homogenizing content on Twitter supports Musk's two two main allies (or people he wishes were his ally): advertisers and fascists.

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[-] eighthourlunch@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago

I've been thinking exactly the same thing. Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. Each of them a complete shit show of disinformation and censorship. Blogs and personal web sites are pretty much dead. It's getting harder and harder for anyone without buckets of money to stand on equal ground.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Higher intrest rates are dynamiting an already sketchy busniess model. Once the era of the cirpo macrowebsite ends santiy will return to the web

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[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There are people that benefit from Twitter sinking (foreign governments, the US government, Twitter’s Saudi investor), so this has been my theory as well. I don’t think it’s a scenario where he’s aware though. I think he’s a useful idiot that can be manipulated.

[-] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

So the Saudi investor invests in something that he wants to go broke?

[-] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

You may underestimate the amount of money the Saudi government has

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 7 points 9 months ago

That’s precisely why they invested in it. Sinking that ship means that one of the few remaining lifelines for working class communication around the world goes down in flames. When mass protests, school shootings, the Capitol invasion, and police violence occurred, which social media platform was almost always the place you’d end up reading about it from someone on the ground? Twitter. Think about how much easier the narrative can be controlled when Twitter is gone (or at least behind walls).

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[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think initially, he just wanted to do his duty as a right-wing reactionary and use his influence to shame Twitter for deplatforming white supremacists, likely having heard that Truth Social was eying up a plot next to every other dead social network that pandered to fascists.

But like every other figurehead of that crowd, below the bluster and bravado lies a very tiny dick and his preferred method of wearing shorts in the shower is spending millions of dollars in an effort to convince everyone he is the smartest man in the world.

So pretentious screeds about "free speech absolutism" quickly turned into self-aggrandizing posts about how he could do it better and before he even got a chance to call someone a pedo, he'd accidentally made some comments about buying Twitter that he was legally obligated to follow through on.

He tried to squirm out of it for a while, muttering about bots and whatnots, but it seems his lawyers informed him that yes, he had also bragged away his opportunity to back out and he was going to have to follow through.

And so a couple of months later, he walked into a mostly empty office with 4 goals in mind.

First, he needed to get far-right propaganda back on track. Too many people had started to see through the "we're not neo-nazis we just have the opinions, goals and pundits", plausible deniability schtick and the far-right funnel just wasn't flowing how it used to before all the domestic terrorism.

That kicked off a flurry of actions like unbanning mentally ill hip-hop artists, internationally embarrassing politicians and pseudo-intellectuals who'd spent decades striving to achieve mediocrity before they said something bigoted and were immediately placed on a pedestal.

Second, he needed to self-soothe after doing something so stupid in front of so many people. $44 billion dollars down the drain! That's not what the smartest man in the world would do! Especially not if money was the only thing that made him noteworthy in the first place.

So he marched around unplugging things and pretending he knew what he was talking about and wasn't just lifting key phrases from more intelligent people like a celebrity parrot.

It was an unconvincing show for anyone in the industry who quickly realised he barely had a junior-level understanding of a single moving part, let alone the hundreds that keep a site like Twitter online.

Third, he needed to claw back every penny he could, carefully balancing things like "gleefully firing all the heartbroken staff" with other important business like "indulging his teenage edgelord".

But each new idea is even more dogshit than the last. He bought a sinking ship and he's trying to bail out the water with every piece of cutlery in the kitchen. It's only a matter of time before the office supplies turn up on ebay.

And fourth and, probably most importantly: "Are there any women in this place worth manipulating into prostitution? I need everybody back in the office tomorrow for a face to face"

[-] Conyak@lemmy.tf 12 points 9 months ago

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 14 points 9 months ago

But he's a very stupid and very malicious man, how do we know?

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[-] pensa@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

I think he knows it is a money pit that will never be profitable so is intentionally trying to kill it. It will never make him money only cost him money. He can't just shut it down without seriously damaging what credibility he has left. Seriously, what are his options to stop this 'money leak?'

[-] kobra@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

I think shuttering it would have saved more of his credibility than whatever the fuck this is he’s doing.

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[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago

Well, he could try to actually make it a usable platform and offer features people might be willing to pay for?

Think about it, this blue checkmark subscription would have absolutely worked two years ago. You have to prove who you are, pay 10 bucks a month and then you'll get the checkmark. A lot of people and institutions would have done that.

Offering advanced, paid features for professionals might also help. Like user management or thread based user mappings, so that large accounts can get management by a team efficiently. Companies are definitely willing to pay substantial amounts of money for things like that.

[-] pensa@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

Could he though? I don't think he is that smart. He has smart people running his other companies, but he is running the show at twitter. I think this is us seeing him fail when left on his own.

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[-] anlumo@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago

The first thing he did at Twitter (as it was called back then) was to fire most developers. There’s no way he can introduce significant new features.

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[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 58 points 9 months ago

I’m just waiting for

“After moving all features behind a paywall, Musk hides the Login button.”

At this point, he’s obviously just trolling.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago

At this point, he’s obviously just ~~trolling~~ an idiot.

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[-] artaxadepressedhorse@lemmyngs.social 48 points 9 months ago

Seriously, everyone here, if you know somebody still using Twitter, you should take the time to inform them about mastodon and explain why continuing to use that dying abusive platform and give Musk legitimacy is a bad idea.

[-] Kaldo@beehaw.org 16 points 9 months ago

The moment you get actual content creators to move off twitter and provide their content on mastodon, I'm deleting it too. Until then I don't really see mastodon being a proper replacement, if anything it looks like bsky is taking the lead in that area unfortunately. Besides, half of mastodon community is seemingly against the idea of becoming mainstream anyway... so I dunno if it's ever going to work out that way.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 12 points 9 months ago

As somebody who produces content (with a full time job so not as often as I like) it's so much harder to get engagement on mastodon without the algorithm tbh. I'm trying to get my name out there but engagement is slim to none compared to say, Instagram. I'm not on Twitter but both BlueSky and Mastodon have been a struggle. I don't see myself devoting too much energy into them as far as posting content goes tbh.

[-] beaumains@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry but that's because you are treating Mastodon like an advertising platform, not a social network.

engagement is slim to none compared to say, Instagram

This is because Instagram is an ad platform with social features.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm fully aware of that thanks, I was responding to:

The moment you get actual content creators to move off twitter and provide their content on mastodon, I’m deleting it too.

And saying from the perspective of a content creator, that's an issue that's hard to overlook. So mastodon won't get to that point of having all the content creators if there isn't something to help them share their content. I don't know what the solution would be, maybe a separate feed with an algorithm that people can switch to if they want.

Edit: and the antisocial comments below is why mastodon will never take off with the larger population and therefore never really compete with Twitter, Threads, or BlueSky for content.

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[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

You're not going to argue them out of Twitter. If they're still there, it's not for rational reasons. It's because of nostalgia, or because they're part of communities that are stuck facing the Fiddler on the Roof problem.

Shaming them for staying isn't going to work, either. We need to make a space for them to move to, not away from, and, frankly, the Fediverse just isn't that right now.

[-] megopie@beehaw.org 39 points 9 months ago

2 weeks from now “Elon musk plans to lock the ability to like and retweet behind subscription”

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[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 30 points 9 months ago

Can we simply stop talking about Twitter? At this time, we're just drawing traffic to articles about it, encouraging more free advertising for Twitter to be made

[-] Mechaguana@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

Tbh i like this circling around the dying zebu part of media, especially when its about an oligarch slowly consuming himself!

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[-] adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca 25 points 9 months ago

I never understood the appeal of twitter before Elon bought it, and I understand it less with every news report about it since.

[-] java@beehaw.org 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It was a great place to share information in a short and clear manner. You could subscribe to journalists working in your area, a professor from MIT or another university, follow sport journalists, war analysts - you name it. They all posted their thoughts and links to their articles, interviews or podcasts with them, they shared information about their new books. Twitter was like an RSS feed, where you could subscribe to authors directly. You could write them and get a reply! It was and probably still is a great tool, though Musk is taking a lot of steps to destroy it.

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 months ago

making the experience worse to force people to click on tweets and drive up impressions inflating user counts

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago

This new arrangement of deck chairs will make the Titanic's voyage perfect.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 9 months ago

Next up on the chopping block: Posting and reading tweets.

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

I always wondered why they didn’t use gestures. Going from using Apollo to to Twitter was jarring.

Not that it matters now, I fixed that by just not going to X.

[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago

Here's an empty bucket to yell into so you can hear your own voice. That'll be $12/month. Thanks.

[-] tesseract@beehaw.org 10 points 9 months ago

How to make 44B$ disappear: For aspiring billionaire magicians with no control over their tongue or egos.

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[-] Whiskeyomega@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Almost a year since I started Cupoftea.social on Mastodon and left twitter and things have been going well and sign up waves every time Musk does something

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