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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm still waiting for a small city car like the Honda 'e' prototype.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Volkswagen sells small cars like the ID.3 in Europe but not in the US, cuz we like it big SUVs here, sucks

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Seriously, I’m appalled that Ford has fully stopped selling sedans and hatchback in the US for several years at this point. You can get a small crossover SUV, and the other small car they still sell is the Mustang.

I really, really hate SUVs.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

They even stopped selling their ICE Transit Connect in the US while almost simultaneously introducing an EV in Europe with no plans to sell it in the US.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember the Ford Focus EV? When are they bringing THAT back? That would be a pretty fucking sweet replacement for my Mazda 3.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They’re not. They’ve stopped selling all non-SUVs (save for the Mustang) in the US market.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

I know. I wish they did though.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

what do you hate about SUVs?

[–] draughtcyclist@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Too big, inefficient, handle worse than a car, more expensive... Take your pick.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

All of the above.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Kills pedestrians far more easily...

From someone who enjoys going for a drive, they drive like complete shit compared to a normal sized car.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, but at 2/3 overweight or obese by population, the average American is too fat for small hatchbacks. Enormous, child smashing pickups @ 12mpg are just A-OK tho.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

It wasn’t a prototype. They sold it for 4 years in Japan and Europe, but it recently got the axe.

It’s a really dope car in person, but a lot of people avoided it because it was about $44k for a car that only got 135mi of range.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They made a Soul EV for a few years before killing it. Huuuuge bummer.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I found one near me for $10k. She's ugly, like all Souls, but she's tempting.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Niro ain't a bad replacement. Or the Hyundai Kona. But yeah. I agree that was a big mistake.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty biased since I have both a Soul and a Kona sitting in my driveway, but I'd take electric of either once I actually own a house. I'm hesitant to get an EV before I can charge at home.

I'm just a hatchback fan. Small enough to be easy to drive and big enough to fit both of my Mastiffs.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hatchbacks are the best. You can fit so much shit in the back. I moved some of my friends with my Mazda 3.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I had a Tiburon in college and dropping back seats left enough room to fit a twin mattress. 😎 We have a local drive-in theater still operating and backing that sucker in, popping the hatch and laying in a bed to watch movies was awesome. I had the upgraded sound system so there was a big ass subwoofer right next to my feet, too.

Hell, even my dream car, the '69 Fairlady Z, is a hatchback.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yeah. I don't really see a lot on the road so I tend to forget about them.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably because Nissan didn't do active cooling on their batteries so they don't last very long.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh. You know, I'm not surprised coming from Nissan. They're not great cars.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's a shame because their trucks are really good

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No CarPlay is a deal breaker for me.

[–] rauls4@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Exactly. Tesla and Rivian are also out of the running. When it’s time to replace my EV6 I am looking elsewhere.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

There are lots of reasons someone may rule out Tesla but this is not one of them. For everyone else, no CarPlay is a dealbreaker but Tesla knows how to write software. Given that software can do so much more than any other cars and it’s pretty well done, the compromise is a good trade off.

Now GM as the other example, has a long record of piss poor software. They need CarPlay. It’s hard to believe all the extra tracking their stuff does is worth the customers they lose

[–] Butterpaderp@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I know tesla's issues, but whats the deal with rivians?

[–] rauls4@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Also, VW, until they put a fucking physical knob on the entertainment system I won’t be buying a vehicle from them.

[–] rauls4@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

No CarPlay.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's why I don't take public transport. No CarPlay in the Nova Bus LFS.

[–] sxt@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

For the love of god, give me a hatchback

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] UnpledgedCatnapTipper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Give me a hatchback with the current charging standard.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Used E golf? I would also call the ioniq 5 a hatchback even though it's marketed as a crossover

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

17.7″ infotainment

Wow, how fast is that 0-60?

Jokes aside, that looks like an insanely good offer, at just $27,495 after tax credit, and with 319 mile range (513 km) .
The article is very sparse on details though. But here (EU) that range would be amazing at that price.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Wow, 319? Nice 👍

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Did they get to that low price point by changing a manufacturing process or did they just cut quality checks?

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago

It's GM so yeah

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Doubt a dealer will give you MSRP

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Still a bloated SUV. Blegh.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The "+" in 315**+** range is going to spawn so many lawsuits when users realize they're averaging far, FAR less than 315 per charge

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like I am missing something or Lemmy is somehow large enough to be astroturfed

Even if it was $10k I would never buy a vehicle from General Motors, they are complete shit