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Israel could kill everyone left in Northern Gaza if its assault on the enclave continues, a United Nations relief official warned on Saturday

“Hospitals have been hit, and health workers have been detained. Shelters have been emptied and burned down. First responders have been prevented from saving people from under the rubble. Families have been separated, and men and boys are being taken away by the truckload,”

Msuya estimated that Israel’s actions in the north had killed hundreds and displaced tens of thousands. According to Al Jazeera, an Israeli siege on the north that began earlier in October has killed around 640.

“The Biden-Harris administration must stop the flow of U.S. weapons to Israel which constitutes a necessary step to halting Israel’s ongoing war crimes,” IMEU wrote on social media Saturday. “It’s time for an arms embargo now.”

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[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 124 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's been the point the entire time

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The entire population of North Gaza is at risk of dying.

Terrifying, but also completely obvious, and somehow most politicians don't seem to be upset at the vast loss of innocent life by state terrorism.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's because their families aren't the ones getting bombed....

[–] MonkeMischief 12 points 3 weeks ago

"But you see, it's not me, it's not my, family, in your head, in your head, they are fighting, with their tanks, and their bombs, and their bombs, and their guns, in your head, they are crying."

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Because to them, no lives matter. Except their own of course.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The blood of their own people is also on their hands... because the IDF and the Netanyahu government uses them as human shields; it's a fact that they play fast and lose with Israeli lives. Remember that they had intelligence an attack was highly likely around the month of Oct... they still let that music festival continue and didn't attempt to evacuate or even warn the kibbutz near the walls surrounding Gaza. They wanted any kind of attack to be at least marginally successful so they could justify bulldozing and occupying Gaza so that settlements could commence there.

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[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 82 points 3 weeks ago (55 children)

If Israel actually completes its mission and kills every man, woman, and child in Palestine, would that make the western powers any more inclined to call it genocide?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago

It took us a 100 years to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They would start to "seriously consider the possibility that perhaps something was not right"

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

"We will have to think about scheduling a call to plan a meeting to start having talks about perhaps organising a committee which would make a recommendation as to how we should go about getting ready to write a sternly worded press release (in which we won't criticise Israel too much)."

The four stage strategy

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 weeks ago

They would still call it Hamas

[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Of course not, because they are complicit

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Probably not for a few decades at least. It's only when today's college aged people take power that it'll get labeled as such. And even then, it's not a guarantee.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Long enough they can make sad movies about it.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

Victors may get to write history, but younger generations get to have the last word on it.

[–] Nihilistra@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (18 children)

Most probably suspect it's genocide and know they, by not speaking out, at least support it passively. But it just doesn't matter for their immediate or the near future, so nothing will happen. Thoughts and prayers...

I see two main culprits that enable Israel to eradicate the Palestinian people and their livelihood in manner and speed we see now. The US and germany. Many other western political elites seem far more divided on the topic but probably fear the backlash of speaking out.

70% of the weapons come from the US and they will never stop to supply their FOB. Democrats or republicans will veto everything and make it as hard as possible to even reach a clear global verdict on what happened and how to classify it.

Most of the remaining 30% come from germany.

Here the key argument is that Israel is worthy of unwavering support due to the historical fact of the holocaust and the inhumane acts inflicted on the Jewish population.

Scholz said recently that the security of Israel is a National interest of germany. As a german I feel this too, although for me the state of Israel and the global jewish population we did unspeakable crimes to are not necessarily the same. There are lines that can be crossed that limit my willingness of support. It's not unconditional and they crossed them. Israel crossed them, not the jews.

I also feel past and present crimes the jewish people had to endure can be used to understand why Israel is acting the way it does but it can't be a justification of their barbaric way of waging this war against Hamas.

In short, nothing will change. Sorry for the long reply, this shit really grinds my gears.

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[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They’ll move those goalposts. “We killed everyone in Gaza by having them starve to death but we spared West Bank!”

“We didn’t massacre the Arabs who have Israeli citizenship!”

“We just deported every Arab from Israel and all territory we control, but we didn’t kill them!”

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Or they’ll say something like ‘well actually, it’s genoslaughter not genocide because israel didn’t mean to kill all the Gazan’s they just did so accidentally.’

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

This is so disgusting. I never wanted to visit Israel even if it was for $free, but now I have even less respect for those Zionist assholes, and I had low respect for them before.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

The colonization power couldn't say the word ceasefire. I don't think the can say the word genocide.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

That is what "genocide" means.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

And no political consequences.

In fact it’s anti-Semitic to investigate or charge these war crimes.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

I would not be surprised if they did that - and then continued their way south. Israel is clearly out to exterminate the Palestinian people by any means possible, from outright shooting and bombing them to starving them and killing them by witholding medical services.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

As a (very ashamed) person living in Israel (I find it hard to call myself Israeli) there is no maybe or what ifs about it, Bibi wants to kill every single Palestinian and the Kahanists (ex: Naftali Bennett) want to kill every Muslim. There is no excuse, Israel is a genocidal apartheid state. If I as a person living in Israel can acknowledge that then yall .world users absolutely have no excuse.

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[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Water is wet, UN Official Warns.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

What the hell do you think 155mm artillery shells will do to a civilian population? Gaza is also being used to conceal Israel's expansion in the West Bank.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are not trying to conceal much anymore

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Both interpretations of the word "may" are applicable here.

[–] Dot@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

This one of the cases where I think TruthOut misrepresented the statement, here it's in full:

Statement on North Gaza by Joyce Msuya, Acting Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator

What Israeli forces are doing in besieged North Gaza cannot be allowed to continue.

Hospitals have been hit and health workers have been detained. Shelters have been emptied and burned down. First responders have been prevented from saving people from under the rubble. Families have been separated and men and boys are being taken away by the truckload.

Hundreds of Palestinians have reportedly been killed. Tens of thousands have been forced to flee yet again.

The entire population of North Gaza is at risk of dying.

Such blatant disregard for basic humanity and for the laws of war must stop.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

With the full support of your government.

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