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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by sederx@programming.dev to c/gaming@beehaw.org

That's half the main games price... Just don't buy it

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ok ill add some other info i dont want this to sound like a mindless bashing

BUGS as of patch 2.01

  • in a quest you need to alternate between your face and another character. everytime after the switch the Start menu would be unavailable, only fix is to save and reload the game(you change clothes like 4 times in that quest and it gets bugged every time)

  • character getting ejected into the air while leaving a vehicle for no reason

  • character getting stuck into vehicles if you approach them too fast and the world freezing in solidarity

  • quest markers not getting updated

  • quests taking over your your tracked quest for no reason

  • characters sending you texts while you are talking to them

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[-] Kaldo@kbin.social 40 points 8 months ago

I disagree, with or without taking bugs into consideration. It was a great experience and if you liked the base game you'll probably like the expansion too, if you didn't like the base game then you won't.

[-] sederx@programming.dev 20 points 8 months ago

thats the thing i didnt hate it. i like the base game. this is really just more of the same, i just dont think its good value for 30 bucks.

[-] MaxPower@feddit.de 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

i just dont think its good value for 30 bucks

OK that's your opinion. If you are poor and/or from a low income country that's even understandable.

OTOH, 3 million people thought otherwise and bought it. Wake me up when you have made a game and an expansion for it for 3 people, let's see how buggy those are. I will take the time to online shit-talk about those, too!

[-] Bells@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 8 months ago
[-] sederx@programming.dev 15 points 8 months ago

I cant even...

[-] Shalakushka@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago

You don't like a AAA game? Make ur own AAA game lmao gotem

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 10 points 8 months ago

I don't have a bone in this fight, but that's a really dumb take. Crapware like FIFA sells millions of copies, by your logic they're amazing shit.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 10 points 8 months ago

What is worth 30 dollars to you...? You said you'd have paid 15 for this, which is absurdly low in this day and age. A small expansion pack in the early 2000s would have cost more than that.

You want double the content in this DLC for 30?

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[-] HumbleHobo@beehaw.org 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ummm, since we are being critical, I'm going to say that low effort bug reports get sent to the recycle bin on my dev team. Also, what's up with the tone of your post? You sound like you hated Cyberpunk 2077 in general and so you felt the need to scream it from the rooftops.

I've played Phantom Liberty now for a couple days and I've never seen anything you're reporting, so you'll need to give more detail, like are you playing this on PC or Console, and which console? What are your settings? Also lose the bad attitude man, we are all here to have fun.

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[-] Stillhart@lemm.ee 34 points 8 months ago

It's funny to see this because I have found it to be the complete opposite.

First, the amount is surprisingly copious for a DLC. The new area they added is deceptively large because it has so much verticality. The main story missions for Phantom Liberty are also much longer than normal missions. The "like 5" you quoted is ridiculous because not only is it WRONG, it discounts the size of the missions.

They also added a ton of side missions and gigs, as well as two completely new side activities in car missions and supply drops. It's a lot of content and just saying "they only added x number of missions" is reductive and frankly deceptive.

And maybe more important than the amount of content they added, the quality of the content is off the charts. The art style and creativity in the new areas is fantastic. It doesn't feel like just more Night City, it really feels like a different area. It's visually distinct from the original game; you know you're in the new area without being told.

And the missions... the main story missions are completely different than anything in the original game. Fighting through the wreckage of a downed airplane to rescue the president and then getting thrown into a spy story complete with James Bond style banter over a roulette table! Idris Elba is amazing. Even the side missions are interesting with different ways to resolve them.

If you liked CP2077, I don't see how you could possibly not like this DLC. They added more of everything that was good about the original game and did it at a higher level than the original game.

When I think of some of the other DLC's I've paid for that are basically just a few extra missions and maybe a new companion or something, it makes this seem even better.

Now just so I don't sound like a complete fan boy, I will say they added in a bunch of new bugs making the game less stable than it was in 1.63, which is really frustrating. But everyone gets those regardless if you paid for the DLC or not. So as much as it sucks that they added those bugs, it has nothing to do with whether you think the DLC is a good value or not.

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[-] MaxPower@feddit.de 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What's the point of your post? You think it sucks and regret buying and playing it, OK.

I however enjoyed it very much and I wish CDPR would chuck out more expansions. Now what?

And yes, there are bugs. Show me a game of this scale that does not have bugs. At least it's not a shit show like CP2077 at release date

[-] Shalakushka@kbin.social 39 points 8 months ago

You know you could also make a post about how much you like it, right? The world would not end. A post being on the gaming board doesn't mean it's the objective truth, it's a forum. Both of your posts could be up at the same time, even!

Also it's hilarious to go "at least it's not buggy like the game this expansion is literally for"

[-] sederx@programming.dev 11 points 8 months ago

I don't regret buying it since I didn't.

That's your opinion and it's fine.

I cant remember last AAA game I played that required me to reload the game to get rid of bugs or getting stuck in my own vehicle,I don't think it's acceptable.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 8 months ago
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[-] Stillhart@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

You realize that the 2.0 update that introduced all those new bugs is unrelated to the DLC right? Everyone got that update and those bugs regardless of whether they paid for the DLC.

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 20 points 8 months ago

You’re gonna hurt a lot of CDPR Fanboys’ feelings with this post.

[-] sederx@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago

and i didnt even mention the bugs..

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 15 points 8 months ago

Nah, I'll probably buy it based off of all the other information that's out there for it. There's no shortage of it.

[-] sederx@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago

That's your right!

[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 8 months ago

Are the missions long at least or is it something like 6 hours total?

[-] cradac@feddit.de 57 points 8 months ago

Check out howlongtobeat. It takes about 20 hours to complete main + side content. OP is just a really salty poster - take a look at his comment history.

[-] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 32 points 8 months ago

So I went and looked. OP seems like a very unhappy individual. I found traces of the below plus a lot of the "whiney entitled gamer" archetype. I sure hope they find happiness someday.

It's Easy so it Sucks

It's Short so it Sucks

Unpleasable Fanbase

"Stop Having Fun" Guys

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[-] lemillionsocks@beehaw.org 13 points 8 months ago

Lol a new monthly issue of a comic can cost about $4-$6, breakfast at a cheap diner can get $10-$20, a 2 hour movie can be $20+, and of course there are $60 video games selling that are less than 20 hours long. Its really funny how undervalued videogame entertainment is.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like "cost per hour" which is what you're getting at.

  • Movie at the theater: $16 total.
    • $8/hr
  • drinks with friends, at 1 drink an hour for 4 hours
    • $7/hr
  • Dinner out, decent restaurant 40/person
    • 20/hr
  • Cyberpunk dlc, $30, 20 hrs to beat
    • $1.50/hr

Yeah I'd say that's a pretty good entertainment value per hour compared to other leisurely activities for me. I apply this to most entertainment things and it does help. I find comparing things to going to the movies is the best, if it's more per hour than a movie in a theater than no it's probably not worth it. Those stupid $50 slingshot rides? Nah.

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[-] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 10 points 8 months ago

Waiting until I can get both in a "definitive edition" for $20 on sale.

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[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Still the best action-rpg. :D

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[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago

I think it's a fair criticism, not necessarily one I agree with, but the quantity of content available for the asking price certainly isn't proportional to the base game, although it is quality content, bugs notwithstanding. I think maybe the only game that would come close to it on those terms would be Fallout: New Vegas.

I would hazard a guess that a large part of the pricetag probably isn't just for the DLC though - It's been three years since release and ostensibly the CP2077 dev team has been hard at work fixing the colossal fuckup the game was on launch day, and then some. There's a lot of work that's been put in to the systems overhaul in order to make the base game more functional and enjoyable, and I believe a lot closer to the original vision the team had before the marketing and hype (and death threats) nudged them to push out a rushed product, and all that's getting packed in as a free update for a game that was probably underpriced at the typical $60 anchor point on release in 2020.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago

This post falls to meet the only rule at Beehaw: Be(e) Kind.

You're entitled to your opinion, and this is a great space to share your opinions on things so long as you do so constructively, in good faith. The title of this post is divisive ragebait, the original post has no depth or detail, and the edit only adds more complaints about bugs without adding any detail to explain your original claims.

Please respect the only rule of this instance.

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