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[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They just found rocks that are naturally hot and boiled water with it... Engineering is a scam.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We have rocks that do math, transmit electricity, and fly us through the sky.

When you get reductive about the natural sciences it all just boils down to applied physics which is applied mathematics.

But engineering and technology? Applied geology.

(/s because I’m not going to acknowledge that geology is applied chemistry and so on)

[–] SirEDCaLot 2 points 1 day ago

In a sense, you're right. And there's a bit of magic involved. If you cut a certain special rock into slices, engrave runes on one side of it, and inject lightning, the rock starts to think. I don't see how you can describe that as anything other than magic.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

You have to engrave special runes on these rocks for them to work.

I heard that some wizards on the remote island of Tayouan far east are very good at it.

Sometimes we take the hot rocks and ship them to other planets too.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 102 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the meme using the Donnie Darko psychologist template.

Donnie: I made a new form of power generation.

Psychologist: New or steam?

Donnie: Steam...

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The only truly new method of power generation we've made in the last 100 years has been photovoltaic cells. Everything else is just finding new ways to make turbines spin.

[–] antrosapien@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago

That's just boiling water with extra steps

[–] aprl02@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

That’s wrong statement

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Steam implies water! What if we used some OTHER phase-change working fluid? :D

||(No idea what, though. my question is implied with a playful tone and is at least 50% facetious; any actual discussion that might result would be little more than a pleasant coincidence)||

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You want to see weird water look up super critical boilers. That stuff was nasty. A regular steam leak will set things on fire. That stuff would explode a broom. We looked for the leaks with straw brooms. You can't see steam in normal conditions. Only its effects.

[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Blech, I've heard stories in my industrial automation days of people being clipped by invisible high pressure steam leaks. No frickin thank you, regular stovetop steam jacks me up frequently enough.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Well, now this is on my list of invisible things that scare me:

  • Radiation
  • Methanol fires
  • Supercritical steam jets
[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago

It seems you need to learn more about prions.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

Definitely dangerous, but I'm less scared of that one. I've got detectors for that, and that's more of a "go peacefully in your sleep" kind of danger.

[–] ouRKaoS 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  • Predators with cloaking devices
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[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Molten salt?

We can then use compressed CO2 in the place of steam to drive the turbine.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 138 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So a nucler reactor is just a kettle with an extra spicy heating element?

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Yes. Water + spicy rocks. Everything else is solar power, which is also nuclear power, but with the spiciness in the sky instead.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fun fact. Coal plants release more radioactive materials than nuclear plants.]

Except the ones that blew up. Those ones were extra spicy.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Except, even then, an average coal plant will release more radioactive material over its lifetime than Fukushima did.

It's just Chernobyl that you have to top. And even then there are coal plants that come close.

Now, it's not apples to apples. Coal plants release uranium and thorium. Not ceasium and strontium.

But yeah, never go swimming in a coal plant ash pit. For more than the obvious reasons.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

How many average coal plants per Chernobyl though. I suspect that number is surprising lower than the total number of coal plants.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)
  • Solar panels: Direct sky-spiciness to electricity conversion
  • Wind: Sky-spiciness made the air move
  • Hydroelectric: Sky-spiciness lifted the water up, gravity brings it down
  • Fossil fuels: Really old stored sky-spiciness from ancient plants
[–] killingspark@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago

Nuclear: the sky spiciness got too spicy and turned into spicy rocks

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[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Not spicy. Everyone knows nuclear power is lemon-lime flavored.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Taste: slightly metallic, not great, not terrible.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cherenkov: The blue raspberry of nuclear radiation

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That moment when you take a drag of your Blue Raspberry vape and the dosimeter next to you maxes out.

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[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most power generation is just steam spinning turbines. Solar’s just weird. Wind cuts out the steam loop.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reflective solar is normal at least. But photovoltaics are weird. Even weirder is that they’re LEDs backwards, and the fact that transistors just are like that is why they’re encased in black plastic

[–] reinei@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Unless you WANT your transistor to be this way and use it so you put an actual led inside the plastic as well to mess with (i.e. turn on and off) the transistor!

Also I would argue that wind could also be considered 'steam' turning a turbine. It's just vapour pressure 'steam' with a LOT of other pollutants which somehow increase the efficiency!

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What about hydro electric? It uses cold steam

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is reminds me of a quote from one of the Encased loading screens.

To paraphrase it "Power generation before was about turning a turbine with steam. Under the Dome we have this fancy technology that we use to.....turn a turbine with steam."

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

It was interesting realizing that a lot of our power is still, at its core, a steam engine

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We discovered a banger like 400 years ago and have held on tight until right about now with wind/solar/hydro.

Still going to be using them geothermal/fission/fusion for at least another 100 years though.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Hydro is just more dense steam, wind is less dense steam, it's steam engines all the way!

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Nuclear power is just steampunk with magic rocks.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Nearly all power generation comes down to boiling water to steam which spins a turbine.

I can only think of two common exceptions off the top of my head. Solar is an exception and Hydro power is an exception ironically, that usually uses the vertical difference and gravity to spin the turbine.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wind turbines also.

But some solar does focus it on a tower to make steam to drive a turbine.

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (8 children)

~~Nuclear~~ power is just boiling water

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The nuclear batteries small enough for handheld devices that we've been reading about recently don't use any water.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those have been researched and tested for decades and the tech still hasn't caught on. They just don't put out enough power to be useful for much more than a clock circuit (not even enough to power a full watch, just keep the time).

I have serious doubts they're going to suddenly become viable anytime soon.

Any useful energy production from nuclear is basically just making steam to run turbines. Same with coal but you know.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Errich, is the refrigerator running? This is Mike Hunt, and he's a rich.

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