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[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago

I don't understand why people watch that douchebag

[–] doortodeath@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion i guess but here we go. The event was scripted but not the fight. Mike's knee was hurt, he came into the fight bandaged and on some videos of him prefight you can see how slow and wobbly he is on his feet. He came in hot but after round two it seems like he hurt his knee. Round 3-8 Mike was basically standing his ground in peekaboo stance and had no real ability to enter the longer reach of Jake who didn't force an early decision and played it out respectfully while still having to be careful about Mike's hands. I personally enjoyed the event, we all have this question in some form at some point: "What if this old legend came back into the sport, would he/her be able to compete?". I didn't come to watch a carnage, i was curious, how far the legend could push himself at 58 and i got my answer, i was entertained.

Thanks for sharing. This gave me a new perspective on the match.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Totally. There’s been so many instances in German TV from shows that appear to be live and such, but end up being scripted. Two examples: "The Voice of Germany" purposefully forces people to sing songs they can’t perform well, and if they do perform well, they end up being kicked anyway. If they don’t sing the song - same. From the beginning, they know when every single one leaves the show and who ends up winning. Same goes for "germanys next topmodel". It’s got a scripted progression with unscripted "story".

That‘s why when someone is really bad, the jury often says "you did bad today, but I got a feeling you’ll be much better tomorrow, so you stay in!"

Don’t think the DEI people won by talent.

[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

What a stupid and hurtful thing to say.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 43 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So… uh… what am I looking at here? What’s this pic supposed to show? I just see two guys in a boxing ring.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It’s clickbait. I bet the article has 5 screenshots of twitter comments, and paraphrases them in 10 paragraphs, while also sharing a lot irrelevant info and linking other articles abut the match.

[–] teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 hours ago

the rules of boxing:

who is Jake Paul?

who is Mike Tyson?

why is this fight relevant?

definition and etymology of the word 'faked'

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

No way, you're telling me a televised MMA fight was staged? Say it isn't so!

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 8 points 4 hours ago

It was boxing. Nothing to do with mma.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 74 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The same people who took this seriously are the same people who mock wrestling fans. And wrestling fans could see through this.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What about Mexican wrestling fans? Since they are wearing masks it might be a bit harder for them to see through this.

[–] Moob@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

You buffoon. Those masks have X-ray. They saw better.

[–] zagaberoo@sopuli.xyz 16 points 11 hours ago

Wrestling fans know good kayfabe when they see it.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 135 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I don't see how Paul wins here at all. Either he beats up a 60 year old man or gets beat by a 60 year old man. There's no way to look good in this.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 116 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

He won 40 mil and Mike won 20 mil.

It was dumb, we paid attention, Tyson cashed in. Nobody was hurt. They both won.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 39 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, but I would have really appreciated it if Paul was hit KO. Would have made everything just a bit nicer.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago

Yes, same reason I would've liked GOT to have a proper final season. It's for the story telling.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, it would have.

I think if tyson won, they'd just get him to keep fighting weird fights.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

"fight this baboon"

"fight this kangaroo"

"fight this pack of hot dogs"

"fight for your right, to paaaaaaaaartayyyyy"

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'd definitely watch Tyson take on all 3 of the Beastie Boys. Especially if the Boys dressed up in their Sabotage costumes.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I would pay to see it, but I have a feeling one of them won't be much of a challenge.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Is this really how I find out one of them died?

[–] amorangi@lemmy.nz 6 points 5 hours ago

No, one of them went to live on a farm upstate

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Nobody was hurt

I mean, they both also won just a little bit of CTE.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This wasn't the first boxing match for either of them; their brains are finely pureed already. As proof: they both agreed to this fight.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

60 mil between them, apparently.

Doesn't take brain damage for that to sound like a good deal.

[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

You can have a little bit of CTE, as a treat.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

True. I guess i was thinking sprained ankle or something

[–] Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com 39 points 14 hours ago

Hit the old man enough to win by decision but not actually hurt him. That's the only real winning path - and exactly what happened.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 17 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Meh it's the 60 year old man's decision to fight. Your argument is in the same vein as "you can't fight against a woman". If they want it, so be it.

[–] 1984 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't fight a woman just because she wants it. I would feel horrible beating her up.

You have to understand that just because someone wants something, it doesn't mean they are thinking straight. You shouldn't take advantage of that.

[–] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Bold of you to assume that you wouldn't be the one being beat up.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

That's not a fair comparison, age matters, most people don't get smarter or stronger when they grow old. More fair comparison would be "you can't fight against a child", some children are quite strong for their age, as Mike definitely is for his age, and some eager children would surely want to fight against a professional in his prime. But there's no point for said professional to fight them apart from a show match, and you don't destroy children or elders in a show match even of you can.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Other then the fact of "money" I don't see why Tyson did this. He's a fuckin legend and he knows he's better then this hothead youtuber. Paul his boxing pants are worth 1million because it's full of diamonds. How far from reality do you want to live. But whatever.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 11 hours ago

It's not unheard of for boxers to get in the ring after their prime for exhibition matches. Why wouldn't they want to get more out of their career

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 102 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

If anyone actually watched the whole thing, Tyson came out hot and Paul had a moment of fear. Then old man got hit a few times and looked like he was about to wobble to the ground.

I thought it was gonna be fake and scripted. And most of it was. But, the actual fight? Mike came out hot and it was pretty clear Paul could have taken him out a number of times but didn’t. He didn’t want to hurt him.

Look, I don’t like Jake Paul or Mike Tyson. But, it was a media event. It wasn’t “rigged”

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Thanks for an actually smart summary. I only watched the first few rounds, then skipped to the end, but I have the same impression.

Paul was using his head, not wanting kill a 58 yrs old sport legend accidentally. Also, he stayed in distance, to avoid accidentally walking into a stronger punch from Tyson’s shorter arms. The match we have seen is the logical result of these factors, no scripting needed.

Paul and Tyson made 40 and 20 million from this, 120 million ppl watched live on Netflix, so now the phones will not stop ringing at Paul’s promotion agency to make fights like these happen in the future, as I bet a lot of boxers would love to make money like Tyson did.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think Tyson had the power in his arms to do some damage but he just did not have the speed to get in at all after 2 rounds. And he'd leave himself open if he tried.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 11 points 12 hours ago

After the 3rd he couldn't stance, he was flat on his feet.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 14 hours ago

But, it was a media event. It wasn’t “rigged”

You could gamble on it, which means there was money to be made courting suckers.

I'm sure the lion's share of "rigged" proclamations were coming from folks who got baited into bad bets.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Thanks for the summary, I was wondering how it went down.

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Best summary I've read.

[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 52 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Fake News, you couldn’t watch the fight on Netflix it was stills between buffers.

But for real who expect an out of form 60yo to do anything but loose.

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

The only way we watched is on my wife's Ipad and it was because we weren't watching live. We were about 10 minutes behind the live stream. I tried to join on my Google TV and Netflix would crash.

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 1 points 6 hours ago

Watched it outside of USA. Buffered once between rounds. Was fine.

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 32 points 14 hours ago

Things do get looser as you get older

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Glad I didn't give Netflix any money.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

When I heard it had Jake Paul I lost all interest in the fight

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago

Of course it was, Tyson isn't a Saiyan. He ain't getting stronger at 60.