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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 154 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like the GOP wants 14 year old girls trending bar and getting hit on all night

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 144 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Then when they're 15, they can rape them, but marry them when they get pregnant (because plenty of conservatives support that), they won't be able to abort their rapists child, and with a bit of luck the GOP will also make divorce harder (that's also something they want) so that their young wives will never be able to escape them and because conservatives will ensure marital rape continues to go unpunished.

[–] MercuryUprising@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

It's honestly right in everyone's face and yet mentioning it people will act like it's some sort of fringe conspiracy. No, motherfucker. It's their policy. They're open about it and they leave a paper trail.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago

Obviously. Also children are generally more easily exploitable.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Where's the author been the last 6 years? The only time the GOP surprises me is when they do something that benefits people more than corporations.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatives have found yet another way to groom teenagers. "Oh, it's fine. She's used to it. She works here. Hey, you like what you see? Let me sneak you a shot..."

For conservatives, every accusation is a confession.

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[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You shouldn't have a job at the age of 14, let alone have one in a bar. I'm not sure who's worse- the self serving gop or parents that would allow their kids to work in that environment

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have to remember that the people promoting this sort of thing never in a million years think it would affect themselves or their loved ones. They are 100% convinced it will be used to "punish" people, just not themselves.

You see it literally every time republicans implement things like abortion bans, detainment camps, child labor etc. And republicans start crying in the media and say stupid shit like "He's not hurting the right ones"....

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

Look I started working before I was 14 and I turned out perfectly dysfunctional!

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I disagree with the no job at all mindset. Teenagers working a Saturday job or something similar with low hours to put their own money in their pocket is good for their development and for understanding the value of money relative to work, budgeting, etc, which far too many people enter adulthood still not familiar with. Probably shouldn't be pulling pints in a bar though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (40 children)

14-year-olds often aren't even in high school yet. That is too young to be working a real job.

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[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I started working construction when I was 15. I'm in my 30s and my body is broken, but like, I gotta eat right? Obviously this 14 yr old shouldn't be working at a bar, and this is a symptom of a larger problem, but that's SoCiAlIsM.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except socialism is not directing your politics, capitalism is. When you have a lot of money lobbying politicians, corruption is inevitable. It even tells you in the article.

The bills are backed by restaurant lobbying groups as part of a broader effort to loosen child labor laws “to cut labor costs and deregulate employment”, the report writes – at a time when child labor violations are on the rise across the country.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I think we are in agreement then. My socialism bit is just how the people around me see any type of regulation, regardless of their own interests.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the GOP finally became the comic book villain it always wanted to become. Congratulations.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally? Where have you been since Nixon?

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I kinda zoned out that season and went on watching Thatcher: Rise of the Witch.

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[–] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because they can pay kids less than minimum wage.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never heard of this before, but I looked it up and it's sort of true in Wisconsin:

From https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/er/laborstandards/workpermit/minoremployment.htm:

Minimum Wage for minors is $7.25 per hour. Employers may pay an "Opportunity Wage" of $5.90 per hour for the first 90 days of employment. On the 91st day, the wage must increase to $7.25 per hour

So yeah, for 90 days they can get away with paying less than minimum wage. For tipped jobs, the minimum wage is $2.33, and the "opportunity" tipped minimum wage is 2.13.

Everything about this is back-asswards.

[–] AssPennies@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That 90 days isn't just random either. It happens to be the length of summer vacation for most kids here in the US. Perfect for exploiting them on their summer break!

Gonna go to camp this summer little Johnny and Jane? Fuck no you're not, off to the factory with you, and here's your six dollars (that's like a dollar an hour!).

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[–] sudo 20 points 1 year ago

How much do you want to bet kids generally make less tips than adults too, because 'what do they need my money for they are just a kid. Not like they need to pay rent'

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[–] justhach@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

America, what is you doing? Get your legal drining age to a reasonable age first FFS.

A 14 year old can serve alcohol for seven years before they're legally allowed to drink any? Thats fucked.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's your issue? Not that 14 year olds shouldn't be working in bars, where hours interfere with school and growing brains properly, and pervs get pervier as they get drunker? Not that child labour is bad?

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[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

The drinking age is fine. If anything, it should be raised to 25 so that older college kids can't buy booze for younger ones. Alcohol is a poison; let your brain finish developing first before you start abusing it. And before you call me a prude, I drink several times a week. (And smoke weed, of course.)

Like the other person said, you should be more concerned over the child labor issue. Bars already have issues with drunk assholes hitting on and groping servers; now imagine the server that is getting groped is your daughter who just barely entered high school.

State governments should instead provide incentives to business owners to pay their workers a livable wage, like tax credits and a higher minimum wage.

Furthermore, if a business cannot afford to pay it's lowest level employees a $40K salary ($19/hr; the bare minimum needed for the average American to afford a home and all the basic necessities), then their business model is unsustainable and they should shut down.

[–] ivenoidea@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you also raise the age to join the military to 25? After all, someone whose brain isn’t developed fully shouldn’t be able to make the decision to go kill people at risk to their own life.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck yeah I would. Too many young people putting their lives at risk without realizing the consequences.

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[–] Djtecha@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Can go kill people over seas 3 years beforehand too. Our priorities are so fucked.

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

[The owner of a tavern] disputes the idea that teens could be put at special risk of sexual assault by serving alcohol. “The environment isn’t the crime … the person who sexually assaults a person has committed the crime,”

I see they've fully bought in to the Republican talking points theory of "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

[–] alnilam@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And they conveniently forget the follow up: "people with guns kill more people than people without guns"

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 34 points 1 year ago

The children yearn for the wines.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Someone told me the other day that the US/Canada and Europe should become one federal entity and that this would benefit everyone living in it. My response was that having america be the largest economic entity in that block imposing the "american values" of restoring child labour, lack of healthcare, removing abortion and the complete and total eradication of worker protections on Europeans absolutely would not benefit us. Maybe if america had a left to speak of things would change.

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Honestly, there are a few jobs that make sense for teenagers to get some spending money, and that's fine: things like cashiering a grocery store or sports game. With our enforced 21 year drinking limit and most places having open container laws we stigmatize alcohol more than I would like, including this. It's not like a teenager hasn't seen beer before.

HOWEVER, part of our strict laws include penalizing employees personally if they serve someone underage. So are we going to exempt these minors from those penalties? I suspect not...

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[–] kgbbot@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

Maybe he can't find employees because either it sucks to work there or he's not paying enough...both solvable with corrupting 14 year olds.

[–] beanz00_@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

as i have said before, republicans seem to just oppose anything the democrats are for out of spite or something, its beyond a deranged level of stupidity

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[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Jeff Baker, the owner, says he “could use one more bartender, and probably two more cooks”. He hasn’t found takers in over a year of running “help wanted” ads, so he’s made do by working extra shifts in the kitchen and paring back the menu.

He had to accept his own shitty offer. Beautiful

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At first I read it as "serving alcohol to 14 years old". It seemed a bit unusual for the states but why not, legal age to drink beer or wine is already 16 in a lot of country.

Then I realized what the headline really was ! WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with the US ? It looks like they competing to see how quickly they can revert to middle age.

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