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Cuz I wanna know if I need to create and finish a bucket list if that’s the case lmao.

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[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 53 points 8 hours ago (15 children)

I'm gonna say not a chance, but then again I also was adamant that Putin would never invade Ukraine, sooo...

Rule #1 of nuclear war is don't live in or near a major city, so I'm screwed.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 36 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Rule #1 is actually don't live near nuclear silos.

If there is a war, whoever the US will be exchanging with will target capacity for more strikes. So, they will target those sites. I hear many of them are in the midwest and throughout that expanse. So, you shouldn't live in those rural areas either if you're close to one.

Although cities will also be targeted, especially if there are secret nuclear silos that the other country knows about. I have no doubt in my mind they use cities as human shields for nukes.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 33 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Dont forget places where airplanes, submarines, and other nuclear-capable vehicles are stored.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteman_Air_Force_Base

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I live near a nuclear submarine repair shipyard, a naval air base, a joint army/air force base, and a major airport. I'm gonna be an ash shadow on a wall

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

At least make it look like you were jerking off for the alien archaeologists

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 26 points 8 hours ago

Rule #1...

It's far more complicated than that. The nuclear sponge is Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Welcome to America's "Nuclear Sponge" - Defense One

The United States currently deploys hundreds of nuclear missiles across Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming. Each missile carries a nuclear payload many times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb, capable of killing hundreds of thousands of people. The Pentagon is now planning to build a new, deadlier generation of these missiles, which are housed in underground silos.

But these intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, are not meant to be launched, ever. Not even in a nuclear war. Their primary mission is to be destroyed in the ground, along with all the people that live anywhere near them. Their main purpose is to “absorb” a nuclear attack from Russia, acting as a giant “nuclear sponge.” Such is the twisted logic of atomic warfare.

[Continues]

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

I thought Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine because it was an obvious trap to ensnare Russia in a quagmire. But now assessing the situation years later, nah, the west is the one who's stuck. Russia hasn't gone full blown war. Didn't occupy. And really is sapping western resources.

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[–] urmums401k@hexbear.net 17 points 8 hours ago

so I'm screwed.

In the nuclear Apocalypse fuck pile, yeah.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I live just far enough from one of the largest cities and industrial centers jn the US to recieve minor 1st degree burns at best from the Tsar Bomba. Gonna be a hell of a life

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 40 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

It's more possible now than a month ago for sure, but I'd still say fairly unlikely. That's a real big move that it seems like Russia doesn't need to take. They could achieve the retaliation they would need with just like a whole bunch of conventional weapons. That being said I don't know shit, I didn't think the war itself was gonna happen. Using a nuke is real extra, if they send one they'd better send em all cause the consequences of using one nuke militarily isn't a situation they could come out of without using enough nukes there could be no retaliation and I don't know if Ukraine is worth that.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There's just no way that there isn't retaliation. We're still operating under MAD. Between air force, Navy, and ICBMs, there's too many nukes on both sides that dozens but more probably hundreds of millions of people would die. The entire point of the Ukraine war is to prevent NATO from getting any closer and possibly sticking nukes (or targets that would invoke a nuclear response from NATO) within striking distance such that retaliation couldn't occur in time to sustain MAD. It's very similar to the Cuban/Turkish standoff that occurred at the height of the cold war. I see the change in doctrine more matching the US' first strike policy and Russia trying to assert itself as a world power again. They're putting those words into action with their current military endeavors and diplomatic moves, but statements like these are continuous opportunities for the West to pull their heads out of their asses and recognize the change in reality beneath them.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

There will for sure be retaliation but I doubt it'll be with nuclear weapons at least in the near-ish future. MAD, despite its ghoulishness has worked and really us the only way to keep the world in balance after nuclear bombs were invented. It's ugly but it kept Korea, Vietnam and God knows how many places potentially from being a nuclear crater. We know America was down to use nukes at will to get what it wanted before the soviets got the a bomb and fundamentally little has changed in that regard. So yeah, I agree. It's been shown that nato winning the war on behalf of Ukraine is only possible through the destruction of the earth and I don't think it's quite important enough for that. But I also don't think they'll back down without doing something really stupid first.

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[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

don't worry OP you can just adopt a survivalist lifestyle. just build a bunker lmao it's not hard. if you're in the states you're double ok because there's a billion guns so everyone can have a decent kit and operate to their hearts content. just remember to bulk order canned food and an israeli civilian gas mask. it will be just like fallout!! or maybe even stalker. how epic would that be?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/

The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has us at 90 seconds to midnight. Not ideal.

[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 13 points 7 hours ago

The original NYTimes needle

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 4 points 6 hours ago

Yes, and I'm tired of pretending we're not.

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

i'll leave this advice from the JP case of sonic the hedgehog 1 and 2 for the mega drive no-copyright

[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago

Based JP Classic Sonic quoter

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 7 points 7 hours ago

Nice thing about a life that's mostly regrets and people I don't actually like all that much is that the prospect of it all getting atomized genuinely wouldn't be the worst thing in the world

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Give it a year and ask again

Right now, I'd say the chances are low but rising

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

2 months before the neocon warhawks step into office might be a good time for a preemptive strike (I have no idea what's going on).

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago

Im pretty sure the republicans want to pivot Russia against china and not nuke Russia but idk

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

If it happens I want to be at ground zero.

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People get ready there's missiles comin'
Get ready like a lover
We got a note from the heart of the darkness
The melody is over
Steady as steel, I want to take the wheel
'n drive you like a rock 'n' roller
Freedom at ground zero

Song

I haven't listened to that song in decades. It's even worse than I remember. It's really crap.

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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It probably won't happen, but if it does, it'll be in the next two months as Biden goes full accelerationist

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago

Genocide Robinette Bloodfeast

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago

Seems like that's what Bradon is trying for.

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