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[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 7 points 2 hours ago

Satire is popular under capitalism because it reinforces the system. The idea that we need to abstract our critiques instead of making them explicit serves no one but the ruling class.

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 18 points 8 hours ago
[–] xXShadowXx@hexbear.net 25 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What does 'deterritorialise' mean?

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 21 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Since no one gave the serious answer yet: term used by philosophers Deleuze and Guattari

In critical theory, deterritorialization is the process by which a social relation, called a territory, has its current organization and context altered, mutated or destroyed.

In the meme it's how the characters in these sorts of stories have become so alienated by capital that they need to resort to extreme violence to change their social relations (usually in a self-destructive way, because revolution is precluded by the material conditions in the imperial core in these narratives).

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It means to stop being a tortoise; hence, detortoise

[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And this is why i read books instead of watching movies.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Books >>>>>>> movies

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 44 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

IDK I think it's important to acknowledge a lot of these types of movies also significantly glamorize the protagonist. It's not typical that the film is 100% critical of the character and dumdums just completely misunderstand it, usually they're also given cool lines, cool music underscores their actions, cool aesthetics, they're shot in flattering ways, played by beautiful movie stars, etc.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly just the music probably makes all the difference. Is the protagonist walking down the hall getting upbeat 80s music? They're doing a cool thing, positive vibes. Some unsettling music, or unexpected silence? Uh-oh, this is bad. What a bsd guy.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 22 points 8 hours ago

nightcrawler was a fun example of a creepy guy doing creepy stuff creepily while upbeat inspirational music plays. almost feels like a parody of both this type of movie guy as well as bootstraps type movies

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 28 points 10 hours ago

definitely worth mentioning. fight club succumbs to this to the point of just being really bad satire. you gotta think if that many people missed the point it might be a problem with the nature of the work. still love american psycho though.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 24 points 10 hours ago

Man, Starship Troopers is so cool! I want to be a Citizen!

[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 31 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

ummmm, he's literally the protagonist of the film which means he's the good guy. Like, hol'up isn't the point of every movie that the protagonist is a cool person, and the audience should act exactly like them to be cool too?

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 hours ago

villain protagonists? what's that? 🤓

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 37 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The tragedy of these movies is they are so good at reflecting back a critique of your existing social condition, a person can mistake that reflection as the only interpretation. I'll add The Matrix to this list too.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

Zizek moment

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 20 points 11 hours ago

And miss the idea that it's critiquing at all.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 41 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 28 points 11 hours ago

"I told them it was just Batman, not THE Batman. What am I going to do with 5000 of these?"

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 22 points 11 hours ago

now let's see paul allen's accidental propaganda play

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 21 points 12 hours ago

The one thing Adornoid theories are good for: yapping about movies