I think you missed the point where they want more of the "right people" whatever that means. They think they can outbreed everyone else and win by having the most right people. See just about every major religion as a case study for this.
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I feel like proper eugenics was pretty soundly debunked as people are more complicated than peas. I think that the only thing you can reliably predict is race.
And these people look like that Nazi from Raiders of The Lost Ark.
It was never soundly debunked in theory. We are animals and like all animals our offspring inherit traits from us. Hypothetically if you could agree on what "good traits" looks like you could selectively breed people based on those traits and get people who are more likely than average to have those traits. Keep doing it for generations upon generations and you'd get people optimized for those traits. Even without knowing what gene or genes are responsible.
The problem is that we're notoriously bad at deciding what is and is not in the set of "good traits" and tend to pick stupid shit like "being Aryan/white." Also forced/restricted breeding is unethical at best, and fucking monstrous on average. It's one of those things that goes in the bin of "it would probably work, but if we start doing it we've already become the villains".
It might work, but in the same way that it does with dogs. You might get some traits you want, but they will all be as inbred as a Bulldog. Probably would knock 15 years off average lifespan.
The more mixed up your genes are, the less likely you are to have health defects.
You'd need to start with a large enough sample and be very careful about who and how you breed them to limit damage from inbreeding. But again, it's something that's firmly in the “it would probably work, but if we start doing it we’ve already become the villains” bin.
There are 8 billion people in this world, and it will continue to grow until there are about 10 billion of us here. The world is dying because each of us takes too much, gives back too little and frankly, there are about 3 billion too many of us. The world is dying because there are too many humans AND THESE FUCKERS ARE SCARED THST BIRTH DECLINE WILL BE AN ISSUE? They actually advocate for more humans because if we don't, cultures will somehow disappear? Economies will collapse?
You know what will collapse all economies, soon enough? Climate change. It will fuck all and everything. There is a realistic chance that within a few decades tops, this "the world still generates enough food to feed everyone twice over, it's just that we keep throwing away most of the food over actually making sure it gets to the hungry"will turn into "the world can only generate enough food to feed about 5 billion or less of us".
How do you think your precious economy will respond to the ensuing wars and everything?
Why is it that even mentally deficient idiots like this can become "leaders" whilst actually smart people have to sit in the sidelines?
Oh yeah, sheer narcissism and psychopathy. They get you to the top of the food chain.
there are about 3 billion too many of us.
Even with modern agriculture at scale, the minimal-negative-impact, full-carrying-capacity population for a 100% vegan population would be 2B. With vegetarianism, 1,5B. With typical omnivory, on-par with American diets, 700M.
We are so f**king far past overshoot that it’s not even funny. And the strain on the ecology is absolutely obvious for those with the eyes to see.
Birth decline is a issue for the capitalist. Their scam depends on constant unending growth.
Infinite growth in a finite system.
Plus, they need plenty of low-wage, grindingly poor, economically desperate workers to maximize their own obscene profits. Which is why so many of them have gone all alt-right, because that’s who is taking away reproductive rights in a desperate attempt to goose birth rates.
Dude can't even get a proper fitting suit or shirt. He looks like someone who had to borrow his outfit for court
Looks like they both might be genetically predisposed to myopia. Not very elite of them.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_and_Malcolm_Collins
Well that's just a fucking trip of dysfunction.
Just that bit is a lot.
If the population declined and it makes the economy do less well, won't people just have more children like they did the last time the economy was in that state? Every environment has a carrying capacity for the creatures that live in it. It's not uncommon to see fluctuations above and below that equilibrium point.
Instead of pushing people to ignore the factors that cause the limit in humans, like not wanting or needing more children, maybe find a way to organize society so hitting that limit doesn't cause massive problems, or try to eliminate some of the factors creating the limit. It's insanely difficult in our society to have even one child who's healthy, cared for, and prepared for their adult life while also being personally healthy, prepared for old age, and enjoying the variety of pleasures of existence.
The Collinses married after Malcolm proposed on Reddit in 2013.
Crickey
I just read their wiki page and it is absolutely filled to the brim with crazy wacky shit.
The Collinses do not support transgender health care for youth, but express acceptance for people whom Simone described as "legit trans" as opposed to those who fall into the "trans cult." Simone opposes allowing transgender students to use bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity and to play on sports teams matching their gender identity.
As a trans woman, this stood out to me. I'm not surprised that they are transphobic, but why make the point about "legit trans" and "trans cult?" I assume they consider "legit trans" to be the tiny percentage of transgender people who are right-wing nuts and the "trans cult" are those who aren't. Basically they're just saying "We only support transgender people who want their faces eaten" which is a strange way of phrasing it since usually transphobes tell all of us to go fuck ourselves, including the dumb ones that support the leopards.
It's probably more like they can't deny the reality of trans people, but they think that it's a very tiny minority and the rest are just cultists.
You see this same fallacy with autism. Why are there "suddenly" more autistic kids? It isn't because vaccines are giving them autism or something like that. It's because doctors know what to look for to diagnose now.
People fall into this same trap with trans people, because 20 years ago it was extremely rare to meet an out trans person. So, now it looks like they're suddenly everywhere! What could be the cause? A trans cult recruiting people?!
No, it's a cultural shift. Damn, people can be stupid sometimes.
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Bla bla managing director bla bla Investor Peter Thiel. OK, I've read enough. Yet another Thiel apprentices.
Absolutely adore this bit from the screenshot:
which is based on Simone's personal observations of lions and tigers on a safari trip.
Sad we have no studies on human children. But thankfully its perfectly reasonable for someone on holiday who's untrained in interpreting big cat behavior to decide whats good for a bunch of animals is good for human kids too.
I let my children eat trash out of dumpsters. I determined it was a good idea after personally observing raccoons while on a park trip.
I encourage everyone to read the entire wiki page as well, and it will make sense why they are the way they are.
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Having worked in public policy for several years, the 26-year-old Londoner had come to an alarming realisation about the future of the UK, the world – and the human species.
She's 26?
What is "several" defined as here? 2? 3?
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The Collinses refuse to give their daughters traditionally feminine names, because they believe social research shows that women with feminine names are taken less seriously
Their daughters are named Titan Invictus and Industry Americus.
Yeah, this is sad. These are people in dire need of mental health care and they're not getting it because their narcissism is in the way.
We should make it so that when someone is too narcissistic that they need mental help, that we can force them. Their poor daughters will now have to live with this shit and become just like them and the cycle continues
That might even be true, but you know what names will be taken even less seriously? Titan Invictus and Industry Americus. 😂 Freaks creating freaks.
Invictus & Americus as standalone wouldn't be the worst names, but Titan & Industry? For women? Those "names" sound rough as sandpaper. These people are so book-smart, and without friends/contacts to keep them in touch with reality, they've become kinda dumb & fallen prey to delusions of grandeur.
Wiki on this couple is an amusing, terrifying, and short read. I was wondering what they do for work, what their contribution to the world is. The answer....not much... "Venture capitalism", so basically they're money farmers investing money to make money. A necessary role, but not directly producing anything themselves. And tech MGMT, again, probably not directly producing many works but cracking the whip & supervising other people doing work. Color me not impressed.
They claim they're not eugenicists, conflating eugenics with racism. Which simply isn't true, what a stupid thing to say. They are eugenicists, they actively screen & sort embryos, pursuing the best results. That is eugenics, and there's nothing particularly wrong with that. Very practical.
Both are the products of failed relationships, the man a classic failed marriage, the other a failed polyamorous marriage in Japan. They married after a proposal...over Reddit. Jesus Christ, am I on drugs? Is this real?
"Do you spank your kids?" "Oh, heavens no, how barbaric. Inspired by tigers in the wild, I slap my kids across the face. 😇" Lol!! Wth. 🙃 These kids will likely be mental trainwrecks (just like their parents) if they don't straight-up commit suicide.
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they could easily be Fallout characters lol. I am all into science and shit but Titan Invictus for god's sake? This is why we need parenting licenses to prevent people like these ruining childhoods.
I had hoped that was an onion link
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This couple and really anyone who learned about evolution by watching Idiocracy: if intelligent parents are needed to make intelligent babies, from where did intelligence first arise?
Two fishes fucked and made a deformed fish that liked air more than water. And now I have to "clean the garage" and "not eat all the cheese its". Fucking ass hole parent fish.
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The Collinses married after Malcolm proposed on Reddit in 2013.
Out of all the nuttiness of their Wikipedia page, that one stood out to me.
... They have a Wikipedia page? In the mentally ill people section, or what?
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Holy shit is America in for a surprise when the influencers catch up to the European glasses thing
We've got fucking bellends walking around like they smashed their faces into a couple of CRT monitors
I'm European and have never seen that, got any examples? And I'm wondering if you're talking about only the frames or the lenses too? If you've got really bad vision you have no choice, and the thicker the lenses the fewer kinds of frames are available. Contact lenses don't work well for many and there are several reasons why surgery might not be a choice.
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And two more incestuous generations later you end with something like Elon Musk.
Those inverted commas around 'elite' are doing so much work they should probably unionise.
The conceit and egotism of these people is laughable.
Is a complete lack of self awareness heritable? Are they going to breed a race of super clueless whities with bad eyesight?
I actually quite like the idea that Humanity will survive as a result of these weird cunts and their breeding programme; but only as a race of subterranean mole people with too poor eyesight for the surface world.
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You could tell me that's Charlie Kirk with his mom and I'd believe you.
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