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[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

May I respectfully...

No. They do not deserve your respect, they will not acknowledge or respond to respect, and showing respect is a fool's errand.

They only react to things that are forcefully demonstrated to them.

[โ€“] KnitWit@lemmy.world 53 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Sadly, you are very mistaken if you believe that anyone in America, including large portions of its populace, are concerned with actual health outcomes or costs. I once had a coworker use the fact that his mother currently could not afford the costs of her broken hip as a reason that we should NOT have universal healthcare access. Literally told me โ€˜where is her helpโ€™ while also asking why he should pay for others healthcare.

[โ€“] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 30 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

This argument is so shitty because you're not paying for others' healthcare. You're paying for your own, and the money goes into a pool with a bunch of other people's, where it goes a lot farther because it turns out that negotiating inventory/prices on a large scale, like the whole state/country, gets you a better deal.

[โ€“] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 18 points 18 hours ago

No, you're paying for others Healthcare, but taxes are supposed to go towards helping the whole population, so that's kinda the point.

Like the other guy said, it's exactly the same as insurance, but without a middleman with a vested interest in making it inaccessible.

[โ€“] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago

Its like insurance... but instead of paying for some board members' yacht, you actuallly pay for someone's healthcare.

[โ€“] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 18 hours ago

Itโ€™s not sufficiently cruel to satisfy the ethos of a large block of our voters.

[โ€“] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

And overcharging cancer patients even more is probably not going to be popular.

[โ€“] KnitWit@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Iโ€™m saying that wonโ€™t be a factor in their decision. In a sane world, you would want to avoid that. Over here in the Land of the Free, yโ€™all can raise our costs by 25% and the people at the top will pander about how unfair the 35% increase is while pocketing the extra money the whole time. When all news sources a person gets parrot that same information repeatedly, the populace buys in.

[โ€“] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think he's doing this because he thinks it's a popular decision?

[โ€“] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 18 hours ago

I'm saying you probably want to make sure you hit corporations and the wealthy where it hurts, not cancer patients. Otherwise you risk turning the popular sentiment that is generally in favour of Canada against them.

[โ€“] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 43 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Canada also provides 100% of the potash used in the US.

Canada could basically shut down the entire US agricultural sector in an instant if it wanted to.

[โ€“] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Please do, it would be fucking hilarious

[โ€“] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 20 points 19 hours ago

This would do nothing. The amount of bullshit from the whitehouse could fertilize the midwest for centuries.

[โ€“] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 16 points 20 hours ago

Be careful showing your cards. His solution to a hurricane was to nuke it.

[โ€“] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Sometimes I think it better we donโ€™t talk about these things, so that when they reach the Find Out era they get to find out, instead of trying to seize our mines during the Fuck Around era.

[โ€“] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Like I've debated with all my friends up here in northern Ontario before - the US will never invade or try to take over our government. They own our resources, corporations and businesses ... they really don't care about wanting to run our country. They want our things and they'll get them, they just don't want our country and its people.

[โ€“] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

Of course they'd want the land. It's the only reason Putin is invading Ukraine, and Trump is just using the Putin playbook.