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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 77 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fellow Ameribros will get salty but this is exactly what freedom looks like.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Freedom means won't go to jail for this, but it doesn't mean you won't get punched if you insult somebody.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

If you get insulted over a piece of cloth to the point where you're hurting others, you need to get a hold of yourself.

[–] saze@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So hanging up a nazi flag should be completely acceptable. Got it

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Every no violence rule has a "unless it's a nazi" clause attached to it, that goes without saying.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, but using violence to stop someone doing it is barbaric

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tell that to half of Lemmy. These people love punching Nazi memes.

[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because punching nazis is cathartic

[–] msage@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

And morally correct.

Never let intolerance take root.

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How would you know? You've never punched a Nazi.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (11 children)

There is exactly one type of person who doesn’t want to punch a Nazi.

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

If you think they’re getting upset over a literal piece of cloth you’re probably stupid enough to get beat up over a flag lol

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot of people died for that piece of cloth.

I also had enchiladas for dinner last night. I'm gonna need a high quality cloth to wipe my ass.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Thank you for your service

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think there's a larger emotional attachment for some, especially those that served in the military and had friends die just to get that flag up the next hill, or to fly over the next objective. In this military case I suspect it's much more than a piece of cloth, it's their memories of those brothers in arms or even the greatest time in their lives.

In Nationalistic countries like WW2 Japan, Germany, modern America, a person's whole identity is contained in that flag. While the Rebel flag is traditionally the sign of rednecks for many or the love of a regional area one grew up in, it's the representation of oppression, racism, and losers from a very short span of time in American history. That last part might trigger some more than the oppression and racism parts as that's their identity one's talking about.

Even as a Canadian I'm saddened to see our flag fly with US political party flags as a protest and how it now represents a very vocal fringe segment of our society when previously we weren't as "Patriotic" with our flag waving outside of Canada Day or sporting events. This previously reserved aspect was yet another thing that was a difference to our southern cousins. It's been hijacked when it didn't have that connection previously.

This can also be equated in some ways like someone's childhood blankey being jumped on and burnt could cause some great grief due to memories of their mother or grandmother that made it. Humans have a great ability to package and attach meaning to things no matter the extreme.

Then one is up against feelings, not logic of right or wrong. Punching someone then becomes a larger possibility as it's emotionally not connected to the logical side of us.

Feelings are a hell of a thing and those burning or waving flags know this and this is why it can get the attention they want.

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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Honestly if you're insulted that somebody is making a harmless joke at the expense of your country's flag you need to lighten up.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

That is perfectly acceptable.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"you can't do that"

"freedom bitch"

"rrrrRRRRREEEEEEEEE"

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[–] Melkath@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Republicans already do this with their swimwear.

Guess they were ahead of the curve for once.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For the traditional law and order crowd (not so sure now) wearing anything the US flag is unlawful until 1989 but now is still considered poor Etiquette and rarely acknowledged as such.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Also, the flag code is merely suggested standards for how to care for the Flag, and not a law that citizens must abide by. To go further, there is distinction between the flag, and flag motifs. Flag print toilet paper, totally okay, flag print jockstrap, totally okay. Taking your purpose made American flag, and wearing it as a cape, not okay. Wearing an American flag print towel as a cape, totally okay.

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[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has other uses. Excessive use by others can identify them as people you should avoid, while flag burning is very much in the spirit of that toilet paper.

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[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This will free my butthole.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm against this. Your butthole deserves better.

Besides, everyone knows they make fantastic paper towels due to how oil-absorbent they are.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They claim you have freedom of speech, and yet if you burn an american flag you get put on a terrorist watch list.

[–] TwinTusks@outpost.zeuslink.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah It's pretty ridiculous. There's been lots of cases of people who attended a flag burning for the fuck of it and ended up on a watch list. Even the guys who do it annually just as a statement that they can ended up on there. It's not technically illegal but the state REALLY wishes it was.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago
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[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Non-american here. Why would u want to use ur flag as toilet paper anyway?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Counterpoint: why shouldn't you?

A flag is a piece of fabric. People who swear their allegiance to it only tell the people more powerful than them that they will do any horrific things they are told as long as it uses that exact pattern of colours. They lose their individualism.

Know what else is a fabric? Toilet paper.

[–] Glytch@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Counter-counterpoint: it'll clog your pipes and ruin your septic system if you flush fabric.

That's really the only reason not to use a flag.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

No, it's paper. It's in the name.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Ahh, so the goal of this meme is to reemphasize the right to free speech and expression and to remind people not to lose their individuality by being nationalist. Fair enough.

[–] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

It absorbs oil really well

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That ink would likely irritate your anus.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

And probably both poison you and leave even more toxic shit behind than you had when you started.

[–] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

It's probably full of oil

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago
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