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Resist a theocratic state.
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No freedom of religion without freedom FROM religion.
Resist a theocratic state.
"The First Amendment clearly says "Congress shall make no law" and this is an executive order. Seems constitutional to us"
Supreme Court (probably)
The Satanic Temple is going to be very busy. Maybe I should make a donation.
And this is it. This is the step that makes the US a theocratic dictator.
This is the thing with religion: ANYTHING can be labelled as being against it. Muslims? Anti Christian bias. Atheists? Don't get me started. Gays? Obviously. Scientists? Doh! We do want the results from science, though, like computers, food, clean water, etc, but scientists are evil devil anti Christian.
I want nothing to do with the US anymore
My dude you forgot women. Women are the prime target of all religion. They'll end no fault divorce, end marital rape, institute child marriage and call it all gods fucking plan to procreate. The right to vote will only belong to male heads of family.
There's a group of people that go around in white sheets with pointy hats and they burn crosses, often on other peoples property. That seems pretty anti-christian to me and should be the first to be investigated.
Everything about the GOP as very anti-christian. Jesus was a bleeding heart socialist by today's standards. I'm not sure what books these fools have been reading that says otherwise.
they don't read. their megachurch pastors tell them what the bible says about who to hate. they draw all their rhetoric from Leviticus and Numbers to justify their gross misinterpretation of Revelations. they ignore the gospels entirely. here are the things you need to know when dealing with christofascist propaganda
Anyone wanna get together, publicly, and burn a huge pile of Bibles?
Whoawhoawhoa...have I been going to the wrong Communist Socialist Democrat America Hater meetings? We've been burning babies, not bibles. Looks like we goofed.
As long as the babies have been baptized before they’re burned, Y’all Queda should be fine with it cuz you’re just express shipping them to heaven.
"To confront such weaponization and religious persecution, today I'm signing an executive order to make our Attorney General, who's a great person — she's going to be a great Attorney General — Pam Bondi the head of a task force, brand new, to eradicate anti-Christian bias," Trump said.
I feel like Trump’s quote here from the article is even worse than the headline suggests.
First is the use of the word eradicate rather than prosecute. It’s a much more dehumanizing tone, as if there a bunch of pests that need to be wiped out.
And second, which is no surprise but is even more worrying, is how much praise he put on Bondi there. That means loyalty to a person rather than to a nation or constitution.
It is funny after years of fighting taliban the US now need to deal with neo-taliban at home.
There’s a reason christofascists are often referred to as “Y’all Queda”.
We've always been plagued with these people but now they have a tool like donvict.
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false. Packaged as an opinion, of course, but presented as the truth.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made, but I know for a fact that the only thing I accomplished is that she's unlikely to make that particular statement in front of me again. No minds were changed that day. It's just sad.
As someone who actually IS persecuted in this country for things I cannot change about myself, I really don't get why someone would want to live under the delusion that they are being persecuted when they otherwise aren't. It's not fun and there's no benefit to being persecuted.
And by that, they mean something like this? Xtians get all kinds of privileges and everyone else has to convert or be a second class citizen?
They want to be David vs Goliath. Being the ones persecuted means that they can go on the offensive without feeling bad about it. It means whatever they do is justified as being a means of survival. It gives them an excuse.
Exactly, the Bible is written for the underdog. Constantly referencing persecution for the faith, which is non-existent in the USA, so they try to redefine what they see as micro aggressions as full on persecution. They simply want to be angry, righteous anger for Christ.
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made
I imagine some of those questions included:
edit: A couple more additions.
Has marriage between two christians been illegal for nearly the entirety of the existence of the USA?
Are there camps that some misguided parents send their children to to be "deprogrammed" from being christian?
the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society
Yeah, Democrats did this already. They're called Hate Crimes and it's the law. Not a measley little EO.
You don’t understand yet. The words are a cover for their real intentions which are to go after the enemies of Christianity under the guise of investigating hate crimes.
No no but hate crimes are DEI bad word and also only happen to brown people, who deserve it!!!1!1!
Can we get a law in place that says if you have to sue the government to stop some obvious bullshit, that you recover your legal fees?
The courts will strike this down as fast as the birthright citizenship thing. Flagrant violation of the Estate Clause
These aren't laws whatsoever, so they don't even need to strike anything down, just dismiss any attempt at actually doing something like this lol
Didn’t Elon Musk and Michael Flynn just post about how they will stop processing payments to a Lutheran organization?
Let’s start there.
Those weren't Real Christians. They were followers of some fringe leftist ideology from the Middle East.
I just got your post two days later. I am an idiot.
says the fucking antichrist
Good thing I'm not biased against Christians specifically. Fuck all religions equally - fair and balanced.
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Want to join our christofascist state where we jail those that don't believe in sky daddy?
Every time I read something he said it hurts my brain. Everything about his speech patterns is so fucking stupid.
I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere. But if this ain’t proof that there’s a genuine desire to install a theocracy in the US, then I don’t know what will convince anyone.
The fact that a President even suggests this is a clear tell that some want the US being Iran but with Jesus.
I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere.
This is incorrect. He can sign it, and Bondi will start bringing these cases to court. One would think that it would immediately stop there as the first judge she argues in front of dismisses the case for being blatantly unconstitutional and having her brought up on sanctions for multiple blatant violations of the defendant's constitutional rights.
But in this court system? I wouldn't be so sure. At the very least, I expect at least some people to get caught up in this dragnet and have their lives upended for years until the Supreme Court finally stops dragging their feet. But given this administration, this Supreme Court, and the number of MAGA judges that Trump can forum shop through, there is a non-zero chance this actually succeeds.
It wouldn't be the first time this administration and SCOTUS hand-waves away constitutional protections.
Jesus is pretty cool. You show me a christian who follows jesus' teachings, and I'll have mad respect. You give me some dipshit doing the most anti-christlike shit imaginable, but with crosses all around, and I'll make fun of him forever. Just a way of un-tarnishing the brand.
How many EOs does this dickhead have now in these two weeks alone?
How many does a normal president have in a full four year term?
They're gearing up to roll out project 2025.
They're not "gearing up;" it's steamrolling us as we speak.
So we can still be anti christianity as long as our opinions are based on facts?
They have no idea what "bias" actually means, they just intend to weaponize it to be whatever they want. Like they do with every other word.
And by "anti-xtian bias" he means, not properly privileging xtianity.
That's what these assholes complaining about xtian "persecution" ALWAYS mean. They hate to be ignored, too. Being told that their rules are FOR THEM and not anyone else in their book club, it absolutely infuriates them.