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[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Does anyone have a link to the proposed amendment and the vote on it?

[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 3 points 36 minutes ago

I believe this is regarding the proposed budget by the House Budget Committee.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Thieves in the bank offices

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 24 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Curious if they tried blocking taxation on anyone BELOW a certain income level.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, I really don't understand why a populist left party doesn't pursue this.

No tax on income below $100K and no tax on wealth, property and inheritance below $1M.

Or choose some other figures.

It seems like it would be a slam dunk to get voter support.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago

There are several very similar issues that are all slam dunks, and the fact that they aren't pursued by the Democrat party is proof that they are part of the same capitalist gang as the GOP. There is no voter that would be against banning lobbyist bribery from corporations, but that is never a campaign point. The few progressive voices that we have still insist that they have to work from within the Democrat party and there is simply no way that they will ever gain any foothold that way. I insist that right now, when the Democrat party is the most powerless, is the time for progressives to break off into their own party while they are seated in Congress. The Democrat Party can join or die.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No tax on income below $100K and no tax on wealth, property and inheritance below $1M.

With UBI, it is possible to have a flat tax where corporate and lowest personal tax rates are the same. Without payroll taxes. That means that employment can be tax free as long as business doesn't get a tax deduction, though they still can if they lose money in a year.

There can be surtaxes on incomes above $100k, but they would appear to be very small, when personal income taxes are hidden this way.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As much as I am convinced we will need UBI in our automated future, statements like yours are way too optimistic on the financials.

Let's see if we can get healthcare, education, school meals, food stamps and social security funded first.

After that we can start funding generous unemployment benefits to handle the first waves of unemployment due to automation.

And as the automation keeps gobbling up jobs, we can fund schemes for reschooling, early retirement, increase paid parental leave, increase paid vacation, promote part time work (e.g. working 4 days for 100% pay).

Once the totality of all these schemes costs the same as UBI, we can simplify it all be replacing the schemes with UBI.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

was commenting on possible tax reforms.

I strongly prefer UBI to conditional programs that have overhead. I get that politics needs to keep us miserable and promise conditional bandaids to a constituency to maximize their power, and the crab mentality that something is promised "just for them" as politics as its always been, but that doesn't seem to be winning, and oligarchist policies are much better funded and mediasplained.

[–] ECB@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

That's been my thoughts as well.

Eliminate income tax on anyone making less than, say 500,000 per year. Then aggressively tax wealth and those making more.

Is this a MASSIVE shake up? Absolutely! Would it likely be a bit messy? Definitely!

But we are at a point where such fundamental change is necessary

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

There's like 10 people in the entire fucking world making more than 500 mil a year.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

700 people having a net worth of over a billion and 700 people making half a billion a year are very different.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Dividends for some of those billionaires can pay out over 500mil easily. Hide money however they want, we need a wealth tax no matter how it's sliced.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I've been saying it.

Every year, we should take the wealthiest person and reclaim 50% of their assets. Congrats, you've scum sucked enough blood out of people, we're taking 50% of it back. We'll build a "This year's biggest winner" statue in your honor with some of the funds.

[–] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

I like the cut of your jib.

[–] icedcoffee@lemm.ee 17 points 4 hours ago

Damn it’s almost as if they’re debating in bad faith because they get money from their wealthy constituents

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago (21 children)

What's going on is that you have FAFO'd that you should never have compromised with the GOP like we fucking told you

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[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago
  • Xhitter

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