Why did they vote for them?
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because the system they exist in keeps them in the dark, and is programming them to be fanatically terrified of being woken up
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Most rural "middle class" voters that fuel Red states are people who've been failed by the education system in one way or another, and distrust authority because of it. But they lack the media literacy to make distrust of authority positive. Instead, they are easily manipulated by crucial social figureheads.
"I distrust all authority except the ones that lie to me and make me feel good!"
Because they're made to believe that they're the underdog and so is the media they consume.
#1 news channel, #1 most viewed show Sean Hannity: "the main stream media are all liars!"
"Main stream" as if they aren't the most popular show...
Helps that the party hated the same groups they do which is very important, and has God by their side. Might not agree with everything, but God is the one pillar of belief they will stand by no matter how much everyone suffers.
A group the church promotes is the holy one. You wouldn't go against God would you just because those dirty heathens offer some enticing programs would you? That's a road straight to hell.
Do they feel good though? Or are they in a perpetual state of fear and believe that there is nothing else out there but a zero sum game where everybody is out there to win at their loss?
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They also live in areas with cable monopolies and no fiber alternative. You wouldn’t believe how aggressively the right-wing ads hammer these people every 15 minutes.
Not even gonna mention the radio, my god. I work construction, there are rules about what's allowed on a jobsjte. Usually I'm on the side of "I don't wanna hear your radio and you don't wanna hear mine" because JAYSUS CHRIST the shit mfers like Jon Boy & Billy just casually throw out is atrocious
The radio gets worse the deeper you get into BFE, because often the only reliable radio stations you'll get out there are all AM talk radio stations that have been thoroughly bought out by Murdoch et al.
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I've always found it so ironic that the dipshits that let Faux "News" and hate radio take a dump in their skull every day, all day long, will go on and on about "the media".
Me: "You mean the media you cannot tear yourself away from? The media that gives you your every thought? Do you really not see that your chosen outlets are also, by DEFINITION....'the media'?"
It's as if these people were to sit there talking about "the soda industry" or "the sneaker industry", while intending those comments to be directed at only a subset of those industries, while being cult-like adherents to the rest of it.
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Woken up? Are you talking about the woke mind virus, you dirty infected communist?
If they choose ignorance, that is on them.
we're at a hinge point. we don't have the numbers on the side of sanity to combat the fascists without waking up most of the sleepwalkers. i recommend everyone try to connect with the people around them and talk about what's really going on
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If you really want to stop Trump from speed running a fascist takeover, you need to accept that this question isn't helpful.
The question to ask is, "How can we bring these people over to our side?"
They're primed and ready. They voted for things to get better (yes, that vote was stupid and ignorant and probably quite bigoted) and instead things are getting worse. Sieze this opportunity. Don't turn these people away when you could be turning them to the cause.
No, that's why the dems lost in Nov. Fuck these people, get more people voting and stop chasing the right.
See, absolutely nowhere in any of that did I say "Move your politics right."
This is a mistake I see a lot of leftists making, and it's going to be a fatal mistake if it's not rectified soon.
Dems lose by playing to the centre/right because they move their policies right to appeal to those voters. That's not remotely similar to what I'm talking about.
You should never compromise. Never. But by being uncompromising, while also being willing to meet people in the places where you share common ground, you can move them left.
That's exactly why Bernie would have been the right choice, in 2016 and in 2024. Because he's an uncompromising leftist who understands how to present those leftist ideas outside of just college campuses.
They're mad about Republicans attacking Medicaid and Social Security. That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how government programs actually benefit them. They're mad about the Republicans cutting taxes on the rich at the expense of everyone else. That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how deeply in thrall to oligarchs the Republicans really are. They're mad about high grocery prices and stagnant wages. That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how the government should be focused on helping them out instead of helping Elon Musk out. They're mad about rich coastal "elites." That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how a union would really help them stick it to those elites.
Not all of this will work. But if you're open to these conversations with enough people, some of it will get through. You have more in common with them than you think.
I'm not asking you to break bread with them, I'm not asking you to be their friend. But if you want to win this fight and save your country, you need everyone you can get on your side.
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These people aren't going to listen to Liberals who they all paint as radical communists. They see Liberals as even worse.
Change for them is going to have to come from conservative voices who want to take back their party with a new tea party type movement and replacing magats.
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He hates the same people they hate, and they're willing to get hurt as long as those people are, too.
"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting" said dumbfuck malignant Trump voter the last time around before doing the exact same thing again. They for sure care about pain, but they love the pain of others more than they'll ever remember who caused their own.
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Well, when Trump was speaking to them about how much he was going to hurt others, they heard that.
But when Trump was talking to the others about how much he was going to hurt them, they didn't hear that.
Trump told everybody what they wanted to hear. None of them heard what he was really saying.
Because they live in lala land. They will do anything but blame themselves.
My brother is almost 40. Severely obeses. Unemployed. And on assistance. He loves Trump and Musk. Every time they do something to fuck someone over? He goes ape shit like it's the best thing in the world. He's so happy. Because he doesn't understand that he's literally in the demographic that they refer to as worthless. He's the sponge on benefits that they hate and he literally cannot recognize or reconcile that fact....
It's so fucking wild to witness.
I know a person like this. Another person who's a leftist who lives overseas and apparently doesn't like trump but thinks the dems are worse and repeats trump rhetoric like it's gospel. Oh and also is a Putin apologist (seems to be a lot of crossover there).
And one more who is actually Canadian but somehow still a MAGA manosphere incel and says most of what trump says he will do is fake news, until he does it and then he gaslights and comes up with excuses. No accountability for daddy trump or his little boys.
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Because they have shit for brains and do not think for themselves, they just do what they are told
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Everytime I see one of these posts I scream to myself "What did they think they were getting?!" We knew who Trump was and what he was going to do.
Your knowledge base isn’t their knowledge base.
They’re experiencing the same effect we do here on Lemmy or over on Reddit. Silo-ing. Echo chambering.
I’ve tried sharing links with my people. The response is often “I’m not reading that fake shit.”
Your knowledge base isn’t their knowledge base. Breaking those walls is a key component of the fix for this.
ETA: No big gotcha in this cast it’s just basic info. The guy who runs it isn’t formerly trained, just keen on cognitive science. He started out mid 2010s with casts that could do well in a cog sci class, like the next incarnation of Tom Gillovich’s How We Know What Isn’t So. Great stuff. Then he lost himself in philosophical psych for a bit. Now he does pointed research topics with interviews.
Anyway, this may be what you’re looking for:
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And the same idiots would vote for him again in a heartbeat.
If you don't want Medicaid cuts, you should not vote for any Republican, ever.
But Democrats want trans people to exist! Don't you know how painful that is? Trans people out there, just living their lives on their own terms! /s
Wow what a bunch of dumbfucks then. Yeah vote for the gold plated guy.
It's because they know billionaires have their best interests in mind.
I would not be surprised to find out that Donald Trump is so out of touch with a common person that he thinks the healthcare.gov market place is where people sell their extra organs.
Oh ye wanna know something funny.
When I was a kid, my parents would tell me, that "These White People don't want you here" (for context: I was born in Mainland China)
Now they eat their rightwing propaganda stright from Wechat and constantly blame democrats for the "migrant crisis", something like: "They are building shelters for illegal immigrants in NYC", bruh did they just forget WE ARE IMMIGRANTS (we are legal immigrants, but fascists don't distinguish).
Who could possibly have seen that coming?
Republican voters are mismatched with their representatives, but never seem to care.
Here in Wisconsin, a small but definite majority of Republican voters are in favor of legalized THC, and the issue is popular overall. The Republican congress refuses to even consider it.
At the federal level, look at what Republicans in congress have done about gun control. Oh, yes, they've stopped things like universal background checks, but their voters would also like things such as removing silencers from the NFA list (which doesn't exactly ban them, but makes it inconvenient and expensive) or repealing the Hughes Amendment (ban on all new registrations of automatic firearms since 1986; existing ones were grandfathered in). Connecting to the issue above, there's also broad support for removing the drug question off the ATF background check form 4473 for buying a gun, which the ATF insists you must say "yes" to and have the sale denied if you use THC, even in legalized states.
There's been bills submitted for some of this, but they aren't going anywhere. I think they're waiting on the courts to strike down much of this for them, but congress could just do it.
Bigger point is that Republicans don't do things for their voters. GOP voters also seem uninterested in holding their own representatives to account. As long as their representatives are hurting the right people, their voters don't care.
This just in, 71% of people who voted for leopards eating their face are in fact against having leopards eat their face.
More at 11.
I saw this same poll on r/conservative being wildly misconstrued
If you goof around near the edge of a cliff, don't be upset when you fall off.
"Trump said he wouldn't..."
He's a liar. Republicans aren't squeamish on cutting anything. He's a Republican and a liar. Do the fucking math idiots.
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Ha, stupid fucks.
You’ll get these cuts and you’ll like it, you’ll like the fucking taste of these golf cleats we jam in your dip-filled mouths, and you’ll believe us when we blame the fentanyl-smuggling Mexicans again and again ya rubes
News of any Medicaid cuts have to be amplified to the voters who never thought they would have to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy including musk and trump and his billionaire backers who authored this theft.
Voters maybe. 0% congressmen.
Also its 79 Million people if you include CHIP.
Yeah.. cuz it effects them directly lol. Idk how many faces those leopards can eat cuz they must be getting full
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And 100% of Pedonald voters are idiots
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