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Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump...
very small... I mean, can you imagine the accuracy needed for a bullet to find his brain?
Or his heart!
Calling it now: it will be one of his MAGA supporters who feels betrayed somehow.
Well they last guy to take shot was
He'll probably succumb to his lifestyle choices first. He might even get bird flu or a virus long thought eradicated. It would be really tragic if it was something climate related like his Florida home sinking into the ocean.
If we're being real, it's not likely at all. He's probably safer than Biden was.
Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn't go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.
In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.
He's also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.
It's hard to say. He's definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.
We've already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there's the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It's going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.
So while he's definitely the closest, I don't think we'll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. ... Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
That person had been searching for info on the schedules of both Biden and trump. That along with some of the other info we learned about him makes me think it wasn't so much a partisan political motivation as the desire to become famous and/or take someone famous down on his way off the planet.
Something that will really perk up my attention is if people start shooting at his security. That will indicate anger is so ripe that even protecting him makes you a target.
Statistically, he'll die of poor health in the next four years. He's very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.
We thought that when he got covid though.
Some people are kept alive through sheer meanness.
My hypothesis: narcissistic people live longer, because they apply the placebo effect at all times to themselves.
I think it's simply due to stress. Most people care about people other than themselves. They worry about the effect of their actions on others. They worry about not living up to their potential. They worry about letting people they care about down. Narcissists by contrast get to live blissfully ignorant low stress lives. Look at Trump. That bastard has not a care in the world. In his mind, he's already perfect. Notice how the presidency tends to rapidly age people, but it didn't seem to affect Trump? This is why.
God please no. We dont need him to be a martyr.
MAGA is pretty much entirely a cult of personality. Take out the Jim Jones, and they tend to go back into hiding. That's the only hopeful part of all of this is that when Trump finally dies (by any means necessary), I'd bet everything that MAGA goes with him. Or at least as a political force. Hillibillies are still gonna hillbilly, but without Trump to embolden them, they'll go back to ranting about 'libs after finishing up fucking their cousins and nothing more.
He's a narcissist. It would be a good deterrent for other potential despots who are also self serving
Not saying it should happen, just martyrdom is maybe the least among the consequences if it did
take out JD. too
I'm still amazed that sniveling bitch JD Vance ever qualified as a US Marine.
Maybe the marines saw him snacking on a box of crayons and they got confused, assuming he must be one of theirs?
Damn you beat me to the crayon joke.
Highly unlikely and I hope to god it doesn't happen. Imagine the hagiography that would surround the piece of shit were that to happen.
Shitty people seem to be indestructible, like Hitler and the bunker bomb. Stalin died of a stroke (probably).
I'd say 100% if there was any sort of karmic balance to the universe.
A clean death would not satisfy karma
I'll be honest, seeing this sudden shift to openness talking about this when knowing how controlled the narrative is even here, makes me think this might actually be part of the narrative they're now trying to push.
I could definitely be wrong about that, but I've seen this brought up here a few times and even last night there was an AskReddit about what Americans would feel is the final straw to have Trump removed from power.
I actually was talking about this in a post a few days ago. If Vance suddenly succeeded Trump as president, it would not fix anything, and it would likely make things much worse
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It's probably pretty low. The secret service was already caught with their pants down once when that guy took a shot at Trump over the summer, so they're probably going to be on high alert for a while. On top of that, Trump is better protected as the President than a candidate, with access to the White House, Air Force One, the Beast (his Limo), etc. There are probably more people who want to take a shot at him than other Presidents, but I doubt it's gonna happen.
Gotta also consider the odds that he's not there for much longer anyway. The Project 2025/Heritage Foundation people got JD Vance in as VP as they wanted--he's one of them.
So I've been predicting since he won that the 25th Amendment will be used (if something else doesn't happen to him), probably not until after the midterms so Vance can still run for 2 more terms. They need to set up the right conditions before ousting him, which will be making him look physically incapable of continuing, like saying he's had a stroke or something. Congress/Senate has to believe it so they'll go along with it.
May the Lord look down upon us in favour.
Even my Trump loving coworker thinks he's psychotic now.
I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year's attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it's basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that's just very unlikely.
It's also debatable whether it would even be a good thing. Political assassinations always have ramifications that weren't planned for, but on the other hand, Trump is basically a cult leader and cults always shrivel a bit when the leader passes on.
Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that's just very unlikely.
Hard disagree, Ukraine takes consumer drones and turns them into pinpoint bombers or ultra fast suicide drones. They are VERY effective.
IMO the only reason political violence hasn't been more common is people afraid of losing what they have. But they're soon to lose it anyway.
My hope the shooter is a Big Mac.
I'd say there's zero chance, he could probably easily outlive us all somehow.
As much as I hate the guy I hope he isn't killed. The last thing we need is republicans having a martyr, especially before they find out how bad for them he is.
With tariff fallout there are decent chances they will not have a majority for a long time. After the tariff act of 1930 they went from having 14 seats more than democrats to a low of 16 seats out of 96 In senate in just 8 years. After that they had a senate majority once and congress majority twice in the next 50+ years.
Well, considering he was an inch or two away from already being in this category, I'd say higher than otherwise. You can also say that since this DID happen, he will have increased security making it less likely. So, I guess I'm not too sure.
He certainly has a lot of enemies but I don’t think it’s likely with his upped security being President again. I still can’t believe we were an inch short of a Trump free world…
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Range - Trump was over ~~300~~ 150 yards away from the shooter. Thanks for the correction
Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
Difficult Target - if you've ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it's not like videogames.
Trump diskussed the tariff plans in 2023. Billionaires agree or they would have financed the Democrats much more.
https://www.un-diplomatic.com/p/the-newsletter-that-forewarned-of
He should stand in front of a high window and contemplate the possibility.
You're absolutely right that, if he is, it will probably be an inside and/or professional job, not some rando trying to show off for an underage Jodie Foster. He's pissing in some dangerous people's weeds right now.
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