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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

all that goes through their head is about making content

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 109 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This isn't a streamer thing specifically, that just makes it visible, including the thought process. This is just carbrain. Why do you think so many people run red lights?

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cars are inherently dangerous.

You're right in that this is framed in a way that puts the responsibility on the individual (not defending her and saying what she did was fine) rather than the poorly designed method of transportation.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're right in that this is framed in a way that puts the responsibility on the individual

I know you're not defending her but whose else would it be? This isn't somebody making a mistake because none of us are infallible and being forced to drive cars, this is a clearly stated, willfull action.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree but there is also a responsibility to make systems more idiot-proof and bad actor proof, because as you said people are infallible. I just believe cars are inherently dangerous and you can only go so far in trying to idiot proof it. I would like the conversation to be more about why is it so easy for someone to do something so dangerous, rather than this person is a bad person and needs to be punished.

We are kind of forced to drive cars because of the way urban planning is done. Very few places in the US are designed where you can conveniently access most areas you want without a car

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 41 points 2 days ago

I would like the conversation to be more about why is it so easy for someone to do something so dangerous

Because the underlying assumption is every car driver is entirely rational, at full capacity at all times with the decision making capabilities of a fighter jet pilot and every time you try to change this they all band together to defend this status quo, even if it means they'll get T-Boned by idiots like posted in the OP.

rather than this person is a bad person and needs to be punished.

She needs to lose her drivers license is the thing. There's societal problems abound, on aggregate, with behaviour like this and it's still very much an individual being a fucking moron. I don't think think this is worthy of jail time or even a fine necessarily, but a person who shows this open disregard for very clear, basic rules of road safety should not be allowed to operate a car.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

People routinely run stop lights and cruise right through stop signs in California, almost to the point where they're just mere suggestions for maybe slowing down a bit unless you have to stop for cross traffic.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've been in neighborhoods in California that have zero signage at 4 way intersections where any where else I'd expect them to be 4 way stops. or at the very least 2 way stops.

It's wild to me that it's just kept a free for all.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They actually do this on purpose in many Dutch cities. The idea is that if you remove most of the signs and lights, drivers will have to think for themselves and be actively aware of the traffic around them. It seems to work, Dutch cities are generally friendly to pedestrians and cyclists and AFAIK the number of accidents are relatively low.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think this works without all the other bits of dutch traffic planning like separating infrastructure very strictly for the most part, slowing down cars a lot wherever that isn't feasible or wanted and also that basically everyone still also rides a bicycle instead of using a car exclusively. Approaches in isolation such as this are tried every few years here in germany - which is less carbrained than the US as per infrastructure at least - and it usually fails horribly because the underlying mindset of the country is still "road = cars, get out of the fucking way". It very occasionally works out in very small, rural communities where the socetial pressure not to run your actual, known neighbour over takes hold but otherwise it's a mess.

I once went out of my way on a cycle trip to ride through Bohmte, which has tried a rathe more dutch shared space approach with no traffic signs, no lights, no sidewalks in their inner city and it does not work one fucking bit, it works out to be the worlds most stroad. Mind you, the clearly designated sidewalk is a later addition on account of how much it did not work.

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[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

yup they call this a California stop

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago

Imagine filming yourself breaking the law.

Imagine filming yourself breaking the law that's not even cool like Palestine Action breaking into drone factories to smash drones used by the Zionist entity to kill Palestinians but something like running a red which just makes you look like a complete dipshit.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 96 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Who watches this shit? Why is our culture like this?

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 86 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alienation and atomization leads to people seeking out parasocial relationships.

[–] TheaJo@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

alienation and atomization sound like dope ass scifi things until you figure out what they are

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I still can't understand why people watch "reality" TV. I can go out in public and hear dumb people say dumb shit without having to watch advertisements

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They trashiness is the appeal. People can watch it and assure themselves of how much of a better person they are than the people on the show

I realized this when I found out the main viewer demographics for these shows aren’t the type of people depicted, lower class and uneducated. It’s actually middle class, college educated people who make up the disproportionate bulk of the viewership.

The entertainment is predicated on a classist schadenfreude. The guilty pleasure isn't "I enjoy trashy stuff" it's "I am better than this trash".

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's tolerable (depending on the streamer) when it's just 10-30 second Tik Tok highlights, maybe even a 20 min Youtube vlog......but hours long streams? Goddamn what a waste of time

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 days ago

Carbrain shit. Every driver is entitled to totally unobstructed roads to and from their destination at zero cost to themselves.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Streaming while driving is bad enough.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

fucking mythbusters showed quite clearly in an idiot-digestible way that trying to drive and talk at the same time is a bad fucking idea, unless you either dont care how you drive or dont really care what you're saying. how. how. you're in a 2ton piece of steel hurtling down the scenery, jesus christ.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

unless you either dont care how you drive

Hey bud, you seated? I have some bad news.

how. how. you're in a 2ton piece of steel hurtling down the scenery, jesus christ.

It's never the drivers fault to people with carbrain. It is this line of thinking, for everything, at all times. . It's not my fault for driving straight at the child sized, massive concrete divider, it's the concrete dividers fault for being there. Also the bicycles, despite there being no bicycle infrastructure present

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[–] MelaniaTrump@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago

Tariff podcast equipment 900%

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 51 points 2 days ago (37 children)

I have driven in cities with such poorly timed lights that it almost encourages you to run a red, but to do it so cavalierly and streaming yourself doing it is just so dangerous and stupid.

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[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago

Every time I see someone drive through a red light I honestly hope they meet an ugly fate by a similarly shitty driver before a random pedestrian gets turned into paste. And I don't mean like a short yellow light, of course. Some folks just hate following the most basic of rules when using a vehicle that should be treated more as a privilege than a requirement.

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Unexpected mini struggle session about running red lights being praxis

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Very expected struggle session if you've ever been in contact with carbrained people

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

they have no limits. they won't be happy until the entire world is a paved over freeway with no rules

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Muh flow of traffic! If everyone is driving dangerously then I'm in danger if I don't!

Fucking Fury Road logic

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 2 days ago

Only if you're doing it in a bike

[–] Xenomorph@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Semi-serious question, do they actually test people anymore to get a license?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but that doesn't mean much. In high school I knew a kid who failed his written portion of the driving test the first time. When I asked him how he said he got really hung up on one question. The question was "what do you do when you drive by the exit you needed to take on the freeway." This is multiple choice and he chose "pull into the shoulder to back up down the freeway to get back to the exit".

He didn't understand why that was the wrong answer and was sure the test was wrong. So he figured he'd just answer the way the test wanted to next time even though he knows he'd just back up down the shoulder. And that's exactly what he did a few weeks later, apparently, because he proudly showed off his license after finally getting it.

So he's still out there driving around as far as I know. I definitely didn't keep in contact with him for hopefully obvious reasons so maybe he drove off a bridge or something already idk

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

I'd like to mention here Germany, where I live, has rather more stringend theoretical and practical driving exams and it also doesn't matter because the common consensus for most of the rules here is that you only have to know them for the theoretical test, follow them for the practical driving exam and then who cares there's basically 0 traffic enforcement, it's all a great big ploy against the average man and even if you do get caught the punishment is a pittance anyways. You can tell the judge you hallucinated the light being green and kill a child and not even lose your drivers license over that.

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[–] aebletrae@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago

Stream of unconsciousness? kelly

[–] miz@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

why didn't this moron get hit by a bus going 60mph instead of Virginia Giuffre

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[–] Quai@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She went to Yale, why do I know this

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[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

Getting turned into paste and then immortalized into a twitch emoji

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

gets second twitch ban

I dont go on twitch so i dont k ow any better but are twitch bans temporary? Or did this person get something permanent overturned or smth?

[–] GeneralSwitch2Boycott@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

they have temporary and permanent bans, yeah. also it's only their word/tos that governs it, not some law so they can cave at any time.

i think asmongold got like a week ban for him going full-fascist?

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

Influencers in general, yes.

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