Kevin McCarthy can go fuck himself. Seriously. I don’t care WHAT he says. He’s a fucking shill and helped flush the country down the drain. Fuck anything that bastard says.
this post was submitted on 19 Apr 2025
565 points (97.8% liked)
politics
23087 readers
3525 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Remember when we were all laughing at McCarthy because he wanted to be Speaker so badly and kept failing, over and over, to get enough votes? And how it was funny when he got ousted because of the rules he had to agree to in order to secure the votes from the crazies? And laughing because that, predictably, bit him in the ass?
I feel like that stopped being funny when we got Mike "Shares his porn watchlist with his son" Johnson as Speaker. At least McCarthy was a politician and not a crazy, religious zealot two heartbeats from the presidency.
Republicans --We Always Have Someone Worse Than the Last Guy
Things have always gotten worse with Republicans. It does not ever get better. What we had last week is better than what we'll be dealing with next week.
This has always been their way.
Things have always gotten worse with ~~Republicans~~ America.
Feels like the old Russian mantra applies to us more and more these days. "And then things got worse."
No. This is very much not normal.
Normal is trying to be good and often doing it. Not . . . whatever this is.
It's been my experience as an American for my entire life. Things really predictably only seem to get worse and worse.
My first memory of a "global event" was 9/11. Then the Patriot Act and the Iraq/Afghanistan war. Then Citizens United and single-payer ObamaCare got shutdown and I gave up on the US, put my head down and got to work on an engineering degree so I could emigrate.
Thankfully, despite failing out and putting a total of 10 years into my 4 year degree, I graduated 2 years ago and am in a reasonable position to make that move. Leaving family and friends behind fucking sucks, but I can always come back when things simmer down, or at least provide a place to go if things don't.
load more comments
(1 replies)
To be honest, I’m not sure who is better or worse between the two. Democrats at least appreciate that Johnson usually keeps his word during negotiations.
At least McCarthy was a politician and ~~not~~ a crazy, ~~religious~~ P2025 zealot two heartbeats from the presidency.
and got replaced by a looney right wing closeted christian.
load more comments
(1 replies)
The dems have been in dire need of a new leader and new ideas. Hopefully not just AOC but many more young inspired people will stand up alongside her.
That one running for office, Kat Abughazaleh. We need lots more people just like that
Kat looks awesome.
Yes we definitely need more of them. And we need to vote for them and stand up for our rights and beliefs regardless.
AOC, and progressives in general, taking over the Democratic party is the only hope for its successful continuation. Assuming we have elections.
McCarthy's dumb as a bag of pea gravel and this is his idea of scaremongering.
I'd be happy to see an AOC/Buttigieg ticket in 2028.
Warren for sec of treasury. Walz for HUD or even better, cabinet level position in charge of figuring out the young man problem. He's representative of the role model a lot of young men are missing imho.
I don't wanna see another dem pres candidate that's older than me (mid 50s) EVER AGAIN. The problems my kids are facing aren't going to be fixed by old people, and while I'm not quite there yet, I'm fucking close enough.
There is zero reason to throw a moderate on there.
Run a fair primary and number 2 gets first right if refusal for vice.
If they don't want it, let the candidate pick their running mate.
You throw a "white moderate" in there to appease their voters and then ignore everything they say while sabotaging their elections.
I mean VP in recent history is there to balance the ticket. If the presidential candidate is weak in one area, they pick a VP strong in that area. Sometimes the VP is just to lock in a competitive state.
The winner picks the VP. If number 2 works well, great, but the winner picks.
They just need a candidate that can get 100m votes. Like it should not be hard in the age of stolen data to pick a person who can get 100m people off the couch. I don’t care what the Democrats like at this point. If we can’t figure out a candidate and policy that will invigorate 100,000,000 people we don’t even deserve to be running.
can you get 1/3 of the country to vote against fascism? challenge: impossible
We know the DNC leadership is interested more in keeping control of their half of the duopoly than winning elections.
They will never allow a leftist to run.
load more comments
(2 replies)
I understand wishes, but let's be realistic.
Nearly half the voters went for Trump, even after everything from pussy grabbing to January 6.
If AOC god the nod, she'd have to have someone like Manchin as Veep.
I know the argument constantly rages - too left! Too centrist! and I don't know which one would be more effective.
On the other hand, the closest we've come to a real left candidate at least in my lifetime was Sanders and the thumb on the scale against him was pretty corporate blue - and the mainstream lost, so maybe we should try it the other way?
Ya my mom can barely grasp what’s going on right now. No concept of the future beyond her life. I’m pushing 40 and got no idea what the kids want or need or how our education system got so fucked. we really can’t be having geriatrics making policy that will affect the future beyond their immediate life
I would support a cutoff for president at say 60 when starting office, that would keep us below 70 for a two-termer. That's plenty old enough.
Also the 18 year rolling term limit idea for SCOTUS.
Yea i don't really mind the SCOTUS issue. That goes away with the two party issue, politicized judges with zero integrity is a failure of congress. I like that judges hold benches and get lifetimes of experience and wisdom. I like the old age and prudence rule in courts. Congress ya, 70 is probably getting to old. There's no reason to throw them out of the party, but they do not need to be holding seats when we need to be constantly generating new politicians. They all became so obsessed with their own power they forget they will eventually die with no one to carry their torch. There needs to be a better transition of leadership, as well as coherent leadership. People of all ages should be represented in congress similar to how we are in public. If the boomers are 30% of the population they shouldn't be holding more than 30% of the seats. Fair equitable representation.
load more comments
(4 replies)
She IS the leader of the Democratic Party.
Lol yeah, she's touring the country throwing rallies while Schumer is trying to lead, "We stand with Israel. We will win." chants with the least amount of charisma possible and Jefferies is doing interviews and insisting the Democrats' biggest issue is messaging.
Well he’s not that far off.
If only by forfeit.
About time. The Dems need about as much fixing as the rest of the country. At the moment, they are not even a functioning opposition party.
Who cares what Macarthy thinks. He’s a republican that bent the knee. He belongs in prison with the rest of the traitors.
Don’t buy into this garbage. Just another attempt at dividing people.
He's just butthurt mtg and gaetz ousted him
Kevin McCarthy is a traitor to the American people, a disgrace to Bakersfield, and just a weak example of a male human.
She's young, she could decide to run for Chuck's Senate seat in 2028. She would be just as compelling a Presidential candidate in 2032 or 2036....
.... But if a fair election is held in 2028, it is essential that Democtats field the best possible candidate, not just the next one up. (Hi, Gavin!) If AOC thinks that's her, then I will happily support that. If she supports someone else (Booker, Walz, etc), I will also be listening. But if we fuck this one up, and Vance or Eric Trump or Sean Hannity get elected, that might be game over for Democracy here. We may not get another chance.
As a NY State resident, I am eagerly looking forward to voting for AOC in some capacity in 2028, whether it's for Senator, VP, or President. I'll let her decide where she thinks she can create the most change.
Eh if it’s just Vance running, I wouldn’t be too worried. The man has the charisma of a flopping fish
They might put him forward precisely because he has no charisma. The understanding would be that Trump was calling the shots, even if he didn't hold the office. Puppets stop flopping around once their controller puts their hand up their ass and grabs the controls
HW bush ran and won off the senile ghost of Reagan's charisma...
Vance could too.
But we should still run AOC now, because after 8 years of AOC, there's be new blood
There's never a reason to "save" a candidate, and nothing is stopping her from being a senator after.
Seniority being important is something that the old guard just agreed on.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Oh, just STFU, and GTFO.
this is one case where I hope McCarthy is right. Might be a few election cycles before some tangible change, but it needs to happen.
God willing
I do believe that is the intent yes.
Cheers bro i’ll drink to that
Sure looks like republicans are scared of AOC.
But centrists saw a progressive woman seizing the moment and suddenly decided that women can't win.
AOC makes Trump and his shit-lickers afraid. Pelosi and Schumer don't spark any fear.
And the DNC keeps the ones who he can rally around the flag to blame for anything bad. Because no one really likes Pelosi and Schumer. People like AOC.
Remember when calling them weird was working, making them cower and the media loved it? And then they just... Stopped because how dare anyone be rude to fascists.
Its possible. There's nobody I can see who could lead the party at this point? Gavin Newsom? He's a DINO.
What are you talking about? Newsom embodies the modern Democrats
view more: next ›