He's had ample time to apologize, still hasn't.
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"How dare you say I'm a Nazi" ... but has never said he wasnt.
Bro literally intentionally does a Nazi salute on TV and then whines when people say he's a Nazi...
That's because he doesn't understand consequences
It's even more outrageous that we have Nazis in government.
It's outrageous to claim he isn't a nazi
straight-arm salute
It's called a nazi salute. Don't spread doubt on what it was. He did it twice in close succession. The only other reason for holding your arm up like that is when you explain how high Blondie, Hitler's dog, could jump.
'Nazi' isn't a preferable pronounce, it's what you're called when you act like a nazi, talk like a nazi and salute like a fucking nazi.
What’s really outrageous is that he’s a free man, instead of rotting in some cell for the rest of his life like the Nazi sympathizing psychopath waste of oxygen he is.
History books will show he said this after the multiple seig heils on stage and telling the AfD to no longer be ashamed of Germany's past.
Look guys, just because he bought Twitter and reinstated all the Nazi accounts, and thinks and says Nazi things, and and performed an obvious Nazi salute not once, but twice in a live broadcast to millions of homes, that doesn't mean he's a Nazi!
Next thing you will say that this guy is a Nazi;
(under 2 minutes, English subtitles available)
Its gonna be a maze.
Wait Joshua was racist??!?
That came out of nowhere...
Did it?
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Which rich? Because I only hear about some of them.
Let's start with the ones you always hear about then see if the others fall in line.
Elon and Trump, but i guess that isn't really fair because they are the only thing discussed on lemmy anyway.
Bezos as well
Looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, even rapes like a duck. Why is everyone calling me a duck?
Ignoring the fact that he did what was probably the most vigorous Nazi salute in existence...
- He agreed with a post on Twitter that promoted the antisemetic conspiracy theory that Jewish people "push hatred" against white people
- He doubled down on the great replacement conspiracy theory
- He supports the AfD party which has not-so-subtle Nazi themes in official posters
- He actively created a safe space for Neo Nazis on his platform
- He threatened to sue researchers documenting the rise in hateful tweets
- After the inauguration "gesture", instead of apologizing he made Nazi-related puns
- He shared a post absolving Hitler of murdering millions of people
It's not just not outrageous to call him a Nazi, it's a perfectly normal and reasonable thing to conclude especially when you consider his other behaviour and the kinds of things he supports
Supporting the AfD party, an openly neo-nazi party, and appearing in their events, days after the "roman salute" removed any kind of ambiguity that could exist. He's a nazi, period. And the only good nazis are dead nazis.
The Roman salute excuse that many of his supporters promoted irks me because of how dishonest it is from the get go. There's not a single Roman work of art that depicts the salute and it actually originated fairly recently under Mussolini's National Fascist Party.
Additionally, the Nazis on 4chan et. al. had no problem recognizing the symbol for what it was. It was the pearl-clutching lib enablers who had trouble recognizing it
This post does not mean "voting is useless", tankies fuck off
It wasn't, a few years before Mussolini came to power a film came out depicting the Roman Empire, nothing political, but it was known to have inspired Mussolini's character and public image, and was the first instance of what was known to be the "Roman salute" from which Mussolini borrowed as he was so inspired by the film, it was never historically used by Romans. Ordinary things made an amazing doc on Mussolini and his rise to power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhwx8z8mJc
"I need to save Tesla stock so I'll just lie long enough for people to forget."
Pretty funny/terrible that there is so much news about all these turds (probably by design) that it becomes exceedingly difficult to search to fact-check older things and bring up previous articles one remembers. Even AI has problems parsing the searches. It is like 1984's information-deletion theme isn't even needed. You just create enough noise that the signal gets lost.
Re-found this info though to float it back up to the top: https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/elon-musks-political-shift-family-34222327
Discussing with MailOnline, Errol conveyed his satisfaction at observing Elon own up to his background, stating: "I think for the first time Elon was accepting who he is. Until recently, he's been a sort of character on a stage." He then added his thoughts on his sons' initial political trajectories saying, "When you come from South Africa, Lefties think you're a Nazi. To succeed, you need to be accepted by them so my sons, [Elon and younger brother Kimbal, a hugely successful restaurateur], started to become these flaming liberals – turning away from South Africa and their roots, which included me. Finally, Elon was embracing his heritage and his destiny," reported the Mirror.
Of course, "South Africa and their roots" == Apartheid, white nationalism, and all the usual stuff leading up to Fascism and Godwin's law.
Guys, he’s absolutely right, and absolutely worse - Nazis have ideals (however flawed and monstrous) and this POS has none.
He’s an opportunist psychopath with 0 qualms about throwing a Nazi salute if it gets him what he wants. He’s a Nazi sympathizing parasite who’ll fake anything for likes, and the only thing he deserves is to serve as a ridiculed, timeless reminder for future generations the dangers of mindless celebrity worship and billionaires.
I think that he really does have actual nazi ideals and that his apparent lack of ideals is the smokescreen.
Could be, but I personally don’t care to invest any effort in the distinction - if you’re ok cloaking yourself in Nazi garb, you’re a Nazi, full stop.
And Nazi lives don’t matter.
Maga = Nazi
No they are absolutely not the same thing. Nazis were extreme right wing, authoritarian, Catholic, antisemitic, white supremacist, bigoted, anti intellectual and education, violent, ignorant fascists. Maga are extreme right wing, authoritarian, evangelical, antisemitic, white supremacist, bigoted, anti intellectual and education, violent, ignorant fascists.
Edit: also the Twitter guy literally stated in public that empathy is a weakness instead of the foundation of morality. When an American psychiatrist Gustave Gilbert interviewed high ranking Nazis at Nuremberg he had this to say:
"I told you once that I was searching for the nature of evil. I think I've come close to defining it: a lack of empathy. It's the one characteristic that connects all the defendants. A genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow man. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy."
Nice edit
Bro did a nazi salute on stage twice. Wtf did he expect?