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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 1 points 3 minutes ago

Explain to me how the fuck does this fix the economy?…

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 hour ago

I'm getting so sick of this guy.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

As a dual US and EU citizen, good!* European movies are better than that Hollywood shit anyway.

*for the record, neither this nor anything else Trump is doing is actually good.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Uh, ok, what?

Are we trying to drown out foreign influence now? Like, idk, China? North Korea?

Media is our biggest GDP dollar. Donnie is playing with fire here. I'd bet my life savings he backs down, like he has on everything else.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe he's talking about movies shot in Canada? I think a lot (no idea of an actual percentage) of movies are shot in Vancouver.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago

A lot of TV shows and movies are made in Canada because our dollar is worth less, so American companies get more value for their money.

[–] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

Québec has done a lot of VFX for movies too. Hallmark movies often film in northern Ontario.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

The US being by far the biggest exporter of movies, the only way this makes sense is that Trump is not seeing enough ass-kissing (and ~~bribes~~ campaign donations) from the US movie industry, so he's actively trying to damage them.

Claim foreign movies are a threat, wait for other countries to retaliate against US movies, sit back and watch ~~bribes~~ sales of $TRUMP grow as the major studios seek his political favor.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean at least this is one of the situations where at its base a tariff makes sense in an industry protectionist way. Its not like putting insane tariffs on goods we dont even manufacture here whatsoever, which is just stupid.

That said, a 100% tariff is just mind bogglingly stupid dick-swinging in this already hostile trade environment. It would make more sense if it was like 5%. Not something that will make the world boycott our media

I mean at least this is one of the situations where at its base a tariff makes sense in an industry protectionist way

Except for the fact that - under no circumstances - do you need tariffs to protect a wildly successful industry. That makes no sense because there's nothing to protect against. It can literally only do harm.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 hours ago

It's probably just racism.

[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 110 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Which will result in retaliation against US movies, thus further undermining the US's unparalleled soft power.

This man is doing literally everything Putin could ever want.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 29 points 16 hours ago

And probably demanded

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 71 points 16 hours ago

Movies and TV shows are the US's cultural export. It helps keep us front of mind. They are essentially asking for retaliation where the US is erased from all foreign screens.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

On some level this is a good thing. Many American movies are low level oligarch propaganda (e.g. The "Tony Stark" character in Iron Man).

We shouldn't be funding what is essentially a proto-fascist state. While there are many sane Americans, they have yet to prove that they have the risk tolerance to fight back effectively. From my experience living in the US, American culture isn't really suited for that kind of thing.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is the "we" in this Canada or Mexico or something?

I'm not following. If Trump's incoherent ramblings are to be generously interpreted, he wants all production to move back to the states. Currently many countries, and states, have huge tax incentives and other government handouts to encourage filming on their ground. If they all go back to that states, the American Companies lose that free foreign money, and depending on how it all shakes out, states will still be paying out tax incentives. At least for awhile as the industry finds a new home.

That's all extremely hypothetical to try and understand Trump.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

The We refers to the rest of the world.

What Trump is saying is irrelevant. Best to not pay for American media. Subscribe to your local streaming companies that offer content in your local language, watch movies and series from other countries. A dollar to America is a dollar to supporting fascism.

And not all of it works on a tax incentive basis. Here in Ukraine the cost differential alone was enough to attract film productions (pre-full scale russian invasion of course).

If sane Americans get their house in order (not Biden or Harris style bullshit, but real anti-corruption programs that decapitate the US oligarchy), then that's another discussion. But that is a big if.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As a film technician in Canada, I sadly can't be so strict. Yeah I swapped deodorant, Ceasar dressing, energy drinks, cancelled my Prime and Uber, but I got to make a living.

Support CBC, Gem is a great service.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

For sure, every small bit counts. Power in numbers.

A single person dropping all American spend does nothing. 100 million people cutting down US directed spend by 25% is going to hurt.

[–] Steve@communick.news 33 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Another "Trump said" that should be ignored.

How would this even work? Tariffs function by holding the physical items in customs, until the tax is paid. But a licensing deal on a digital good, that can be transfered undetected over the internet, is impossible to teriff. You could tax it other ways, but 100% of what. The distribution license? The copyright?

I guarantee he hasn't thought about any of this, and as such this mindless utterance a can be safely ignored.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The more logical choice would be to tax the distribution license sold by non American entities.

The thing that makes this unenforceable is that what he means is that he wants to tax movies not filmed fully in the US even if they are American movies.

[–] Steve@communick.news 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Sure I'll accept I got all the details wrong. That doesn't really matter to my point.
My point is that this is another example of him saying something so stupid, that it shouldn't get any media coverage.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Point taken, but this isn't just a "covfefe moment" though. This is newsworthy because Trump just obliterated half of all money in Hollywood. Gone, reduced to atoms.

Culture is one of the main things that the US exports across the world, and this puts a big old smoking hole in our feet in that regard. This will have tangible repercussions.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

Sure I'll accept I got all the details wrong. That doesn't really matter to my point.

This made me chuckle.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago

This guy is playing a board game and losing to a toddler.

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 14 points 15 hours ago

For someone that said he explicitly doesn't like losers, he sure can embody one.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Relax. Hell backtrack on them in 3 weeks.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

After destroying the USs reputation (even further), but before collecting any meaningful value/revenue.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 12 hours ago

And other countries to add American movies to the list of things to retaliate with.

[–] PixelTron@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Beg to differ, Hell has standards. They wouldn't want the orange dumpster.

Nah, I imagine whatever demon got ownership of Donny would win the jackpot. Trump isn't the first of his kind, he's barely special at all when lined up next to other self-indulgent, hate-filled dictators who had amassed power throughout human history. Hell would have plenty of experience with his kind, and thus would know exactly what to do with Donny.

Each of those former-rulers had legions of people who absolutely detested them. There'd probably be a celebration when a massive shitbag like that finally passes the gates of Hell. A creative demon would probably recognize and exploit that energy somehow, maybe by offering people a break from being tortured, and instead getting a chance to torture such an individual for a set amount of time. (Probably charging the people for the opportunity, too, since I assume Hell would be capitalist. But I disgress.) Point is, a demon would have a lot of options with a ward like Donny.

[–] Deadeyegai@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Unrelated but the "W" in the Hollywood sign is asymmetrical.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Can we make sure that we define non-US movies as any movie that's got a primary non-US investor? So that, given the amount of money China has poured into Disney, it makes them non-US? And all the Chinese film companies that have been sniffing around and snapping up productions that should be US based?

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

China and many countries are huge consumers of American movies and entertainment.

Let them retaliate up the wazoo. We deserve everything we get. It just sucks that us non-magas have to suffer for their idiocy.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 1 points 15 hours ago

Good thing the Lord of the Rings has been done for years. I dont actually understand qhat this tariffs is. If a movie has ro be filmed on site in say Italy, but everything else is done in America, is that ok? 🫤 I am lost.