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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It's true that we've gone from "oh good now it's cool to be a nerd!" and rapidly progressed to "oh god the really bitter ones are using their success for revenge." What's wild is the image I have of an 80's "reaganaut" (besides a bigot with bad taste) is someone who wants to be out and with people. They want a fuck ton of money to throw around in huge, public, ostentatious ways. These nerds are all obsessed with their fortresses of solitude. Like look even at your brolosopher grifters on the right - they live in sterile, expensive apartments. They never show themselves with people. They are offering this weird cult guru situation of "you don't need people, you need my supplement and course and you will be a king like me." Musk, Zuck, all those fucks (hyuk hyuk hyuk) believe and feed into this shit.

Now they're mainstreaming eugenics and it's getting really bad.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In general, nerds have a history of being treated badly, bullied even, by the people you are talking about.

They arent around people because people harm them more than help them.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I think that’s a rather simplistic explanation tbh. There is literally a bro culture now about basically grafting capitalism onto self care that really fosters this shit too.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago

I read the first chapter of Careless People last night and I never thought these people were such large dorks, but here we are.

[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Zuck can piss off

[–] cuban_Pete@lemy.lol 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 15 seconds ago

This movie hasn't aged well, for anyone who hasn't seen it.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago

The saying money can't unlame you still true.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Every major politician in the USA has major financial backers with their own agendas that they purchase through superPAC contributions and by funding re-election campaigns. It's been the ruling oligarchy my whole life and I'm middle aged. Pretending it's different or worse now is disingenuous.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

It is worse now, at least the legal money side.

Citizens United removed the limits on the international money as well as the domestic money.

Why is the countey tearing itself apart? Because the foreign money has interest in weakening, stealing, amd profiteering from the USA.

Conversely, the domestic money wants to keep the domestic part from falling completely apart; at least until the real estate, votes, and grant money for the revitalization project are all lined up.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

He's such a fucking dork.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 hours ago

If they were posh people with "breeding" that wouldn't make being the direct or indirect victim of their destruction any better, unless you're an upper middle class Briton who has bern btought up with 19th century notions of "born to rule elites" such as most columnists for The Guardian.

I get it that people here derive a little enjoyment out of taking the piss of the character flaws of these wankers, but were they are coming from is not were this columnist is coming from.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but everything seems to be going down the tubes quite fast.

Yeah like having to accept all cookies to read the article.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 hours ago

Block third-party scripts, no cookie popup.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 35 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I will be happy if Zuck is Luigi’d before my death. Also Musk and Bozo.

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

I hope you aren't from the US because that's surely gonna put you on a NSA list

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 11 minutes ago

I have listened to MAGA pray for liberals deaths. I’m just saying it would be funny if they got luigi’d before my own death. I’m not calling for someone to do it. Unlike MAGA.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Trump is scaling back the NSA and CIA isn't he?

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Fuck the NSA

[–] FragrantGarden 8 points 5 hours ago

NSA take note, we can Luigi you too. Sit back and let the oppressors perish and it will stop with them.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't worry about the list. We are all on it by now anyway.

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I'm not from the US and didn't plan to visit anytime soon anymore so I don't mind, just reminding others.

[–] SaladKing@lemm.ee 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No one seems to have read Machiavelli’s stuff these days. It explains so much. Also, just history in general will tell you all about today’s happenings.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

The Prince was a warning of what could happen. The Drumpf is the result of ignoring the warnings.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 49 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Imagine if, when Facebook rolled out, people were just like "no thanks, I'm good" and it never took off.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

That's exactly what happens when a Facebook competitor (possibly an ethical one) rolls out these days. Which is part of the problem. Zuck poisoned the idea.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Friendica exists, and it's part of the Fediverse. It's not going anywhere.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 3 points 5 hours ago

Dead things can't, in fact, go anywhere.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I wanted to. I liked Myspace. It has character. Some of it was cringe. But you could at least customize it. Facebook seemed so bland. But I had an ex GF that insisted on it and I didn't think it was worth breaking up over. I shouldn't have been such a pushover.

[–] AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

I stayed on Myspace long past when the majority jumped ship. It eventually lost what made it special when the boy band guy bought it to twist it into something more music focused. But I still preferred it to the sterile, uniformity of Facebook.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 9 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

You would break up over switching online platforms?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Nothing like that. It was more like she was insistent and I didn't feel like it was a hill to die on at the time.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It sounds ridiculous now with everything that's happened in social media in the meantime, but I can see that being a thing in 2006 when the vibe of social media was very different to what it's become now. Back then it was just a tidy little PHP site for you to chat and share photos with friends and family on. Literally nothing appeared in your feed that wasn't a post from a Friend. It was basically a Whatsapp group with a photo gallery feature.

Since Facebook didn't have the baggage it has now, it's much easier to read refusing to join your girlfriend's circle of friends and family back then as a wider rejection of her as a person, same as if you refused to join her family Whatsapp/Telegram/whatever group chat.

I'm not taking her side here, but I wanted to give a bit of perspective for people looking at it through the lens of 2025.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm assuming the GF would break up with OP over it. Which is itself a big red flag.

Edit: fwiw, it does seem like there is quite a bit of drama and bullshit over choice of phone (Android vs Apple)

[–] slampisko@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

I used to hate the Android vs Apple drama vis à vis romantic partner choice, but then I realized that it's in itself a great filter of people I don't want in my life

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[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 186 points 19 hours ago (12 children)

The thing they all share is that they are deeply unloved. Trump, musk, bezos, zuck, none of them have healthy loving families. They have noons they can genuinely connect with. And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need. But it never does, so they just keep going not realizing the path they chose doesn't end anywhere near what they desire. Money will never buy love and peace.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's a tired stereotype. Powerful people are unloved because they don't need to be loved. They are psychopaths, they have all the love they need, they are bored with the world and have nothing more to want.

People around you are unloved because they have problems.

Also money can buy you a cottage surrounded by nice trees near a river, healthy food, more house animals than you could want, a fast PC, jasmine and lilac bushes outside your window.

I think it can go a long way.

My irritation from this stereotype is because it kinda says the opposite of what it says. It feels like sublimated envy, expressed by saying that you don't envy them. Why talk about their money at all then.

I wouldn't envy anyone's money if that's all the difference between us, unfortunately money buys power and power is used to impose one's will upon me, and that I very much care about.

But your typical young Trotskyists in the Interwebs write whole articles consisting of Marxist vibes (a strong thing, especially in spring, but not enough) and envy to those having more. LOL, someone having more money is not our problem. Our problem is someone attacking us with it.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 points 8 hours ago

While this is a fresh perspective of the trope, there is very significant evidence that becoming rich is a predictor of early death and depression, presumably due to how hard it becomes to connect to people. Normal people need money to eat and live, and handle it like the privilege it is. It is synonymous with survival for most people. It's no wonder at all to me why the oligarchs has been naturally selected to be psychopaths. All other people die. A select few give it away and devote themselves to reintegrate back to humanity but those are very few and far between.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 107 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need.

If that was all it was, then I'd feel sorry for them. No, they're trying to fulfill that need by being Great Men of History with Mighty Plans, but their Mighty Plans are all terrible, because they're horrible people.

[–] o1011o@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah, I think it's a mistake to imagine that these are good people who just need a little love. There are literally hundreds of millions of people who aren't getting enough love for proper human flourishing and it's not like that turned them all into fascists. The kind of evil exhibited by these people must be attributed to a fundamental enjoyment of the suffering of others.

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[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't challenge this view for Musk, Bezos, Trump. But Zuck gives me more of a "reformed (now married) incel that comes from an otherwise normal family environment vibe". His marriage seems at least typical, likely loving etc.

His product happens to be the most harmful for democracy and I consider him equal for worst of the bunch as a result, but I think it's explained by corporate/personal greed and being out of touch with reality.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

He wants to be Augustus Caesar. That’s not “normal loving relationship” behavior.

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[–] Tournesol@feddit.fr 70 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I have been prepared for evil, for greed, for cruelty, for injustice – but I did not anticipate that the people in power would also be such huge losers.

This. This is what I feel like

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

What's worse is that half the population actually voted for these losers. After the losers published a document describing exactly what they are going to do. We are surrounded by idiots.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 88 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I just started reading this book about Facebook and I am amazed how little they cared about how much power they had, and how oblivious they were of it.

These are companies that rule the world, but don't know what they want with it, other than for it to generate profit

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