Sony tried that in Brazil, but it didn't go as planned. The court ordered them to unbrick it, but they had to provide a new console because they couldn't unbrick it. And they paid damages.
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That's it, I'm going to skip Switch 2 and get a Steam Deck next. And I'll stick to stuff that can run Dolphin.
(Learns that Xbox Series can also run Dolphin without modding) Well shit, I'm set for life, now just need to sort out the portable console situation
If corporate enshittification is the reason for you to skip on the switch, giving any more money to Microsoft doesn't make sense either.
I assume they already gave them money for it years ago.
That's cool. I'll install Torzu on my ROG ally and play all the fucking switch games I want to.
Oh, you thought you owned that thing you bought? No. This is 2025. You own nothing. It doesn’t matter how much money you gave them. Yeah, gave them. Because you didn’t buy that stuff. You’re just borrowing it.
Well I also reserve the right to not buy their underpowered shit.
Cool! Time to go to the sea for more nintendo stuff! Good think you cant brick a device you dont have control over 😘
Nintendo emailed me today saying something like they changed their EULA and if I didn’t do anything then it counts as accepting the new EULA unless I close my account. Haven’t had a switch in years, didn’t even like it and gave it away. Anyway I closed my Nintendo account immediately.
I’ve recently decided to complete all the games we’ve bought on our family Switch before allowing myself to get a Steam Deck alongside my Ps5.
While Nintendo has some very good games, I think I’ll never buy again from them.
Just fyi, I believe Sony has stated the same right as well.
The reason this is in legalese is because of the possibility of online cheating.
I don't agree with it, I'm just saying the ~~excuse~~ reasoning console corporations give.
Anyway, it's illegal to do that in the EU anyway.
Everything is about "online cheating" it's the think of the children!! of the gaming world
It’s not fair, but I give a pass to Sony as their games are more my type and I’ve always used Sony consoles a lot.
Sony ain’t probably better than Nintendo as a conpany, that’s also why I’m extendibg my reach with Steam Deck gaming in the future.
They can "reserve the right" all they want, that's illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I'd love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.
Pretty sure that's illegal in most parts of Europe. Checking the article it says that the policy has only been updated in the UK and the US.
Sucks to be a country without adequate consumer protection, I guess.
That corporation is still stuck in 1985 or 1989 (otherwise stuck in the Showa Era), trying to keep absolute control of anything it made.
The 1980s were before the DMCA. In those days if you bought an expensive piece of electronics both seller and buyer expected that you owned it.
So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn't available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.
After(poorly) doing it, I wasn't able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.
So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.
Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won't allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.
They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.
Soooo, just curious but, instead of modding, why didn't you just set your console region to Japan? That's what I did. Just seems a lot easier.
I didn't know you could do that. I'm in Taiwan and I know Steam doesn't let you make a purchase without a local credit card. So I imagine that's the case for Japan.
Similar here. Bricked my kids switch, so we modded it. Now we have ALL the games.
How'd you mod it after you bricked it?
It won't access the Nintendo network, can't use store, etc. not 100% bricked. Sorry
Ah okay, thanks. I'm too scared to mess with most hardware so not always up to date on the terminology. My tinkering is exclusively desktop/laptop stuff.
So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too "secure" or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.
Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You'll find duct tape on all the latches.
Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You're going to find post-its under keyboards.
Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.
Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They'll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.
Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.
When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.
Meet your customers where they're at!
Basically what Gabe said.
The most secure device ever made is a Rock.
You cannot have your bank account stolen from a Rock. People will never get your personal files or medical info from a Rock. People will never spy on you through the Rock.
But you also can’t do much with a Rock.
Uh, we kinda tricked rocks into thinking using lightening and learned to use rocks to make AI...
I disagree on the premise that a rock cannot be used for much. I mean, the available actions for a rock ARE pretty limited, but it can be used in a variety of ways!
Good in a revolution.
Next time just use a Switch emulator. Sudachi is a good one.
You can even download Fitgirl Repacks of Switch titles that include the emulator already set up and ready to go. Literally just a one click install and you're playing.
Fitgirl Repacks my beloved
I'd like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that "permanently unusable in whole or in part" includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it's the user's fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.
But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don't like. That is absolutely dystopian.
At this point I'm surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.
i mean if i had a specific nintendo console for pirated games, i wouldn't connect it to the internet
I'm gonna pirate some Nintendo games just out of spite, really.
I've been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I'm not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.
Ah. So now we're merely 'licensing' physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?
Always has been unless you count modding to remove this kind of shitty DRM.
Nintendo was the company to popularize DRM in home consoles with the US release of the NES. The Famicom had no DRM even though it was identical hardware otherwise (well, that, the RF modulator, and the PCB layout).
Fuck tinendo.
i can't wait to pirate their new switch 2 games 🥰 its gonna be awesome.
I don't seem how threatening to brick a device is intended to help you sell more of them. Like I was seriously considering buying a Switch 2 even recently, but this is really the nail in the coffin. Why should I pay money for something that could stop working on their whims? Because it's not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.
At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn't seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.
With the price of software it will be interesting to see how it goes. I think they jumped the gun a bit hard on that one and will have to backpedal.