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The march to Nazism takes another step

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[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 11 points 10 hours ago

They can start in the Oval Office.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 65 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Seems weird that they'd want to go after their voter base so publicly.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 16 points 15 hours ago

Who needs voters, when you do not have elections?

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

So maga folks. Lol

[–] mcv@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago

That's going to cost them votes in the long run, if their base can't reproduce.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 36 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Bold emphasis is mine

But idea of offering** feral populations **financial incentives for voluntary sterilization is completely taboo.

Wow, just wow.

When a population gets feral, a little snip snip keeps things in control. Could offer incentives (Air Jordans, etc.).

Sure... some new sneaks for never being able to procreate? Sounds legit (heavy /s obviously)

I have a suspicion where this is being aimed at:

It's not politically correct to say, but low-IQ, low-impulse control populations lack higher reasoning and moral faculties - they require strict corporal punishment and threat of violence to function properly within a society.

It's the people RFK is targeting - people with Autism, ADHD, other neurodivergent conditions, the physically and mentally disabled. Cull the ones who are already "diseased" and leave the healthier ones to live one and procreate. At least that's my suspicion here - basically they're pushing the discourse towards an acceptance of some form of eugenics. It's terrifying.

The point in the last quote - 'to function properly within a society' is really a veiled form of saying - 'you will work until you die in whatever way we see fit'.

There's a similar push in the UK to get disabled people into any job, seemingly regardless of suitability, workplace accommodations (despite there being legal requirements to make such things) - and the way this is being done is to effectively penalise them financially by sanctioning the disability allowances, refusing PIP (Personal Independence Payment) and forcing those with lifelong conditions to undergo a full review every year. This pretty much can starve out someone into finding a way to live that means the Government pays less and the quality of life the person has is drastically reduced owing to the various stressors inflicted on them. The whole thing is a shitshow and is being argued about a lot at the moment in our Government parties.

Can disabled people work? For sure, and many do. Can all disabled people work? No, but the Government is going to make damn sure that you at least try, and if you fail, then find another job cause we ain't supporting you now we know you can work regardless of how effective you are... From a Govt statement:

We’re determined to fix the broken benefits system as part of our Plan for Change by reforming the welfare system and delivering proper support to help people get into work and get on at work, so we can get Britain working and deliver our ambition of an 80% employment rate.

In other words, to "function properly within a society".

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 20 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

...did you read the same text i did?..that was f*cking code-speak for urban black populations...

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The Air Jordans comment especially was a dead giveaway.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

That was probably their revision. I'm certain the first draft said "(fried chicken, watermelon, Kool-aid, etc.)"

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

"When you've only seen Boss Baby, all other movies get related to Boss Baby."

For some people, their induction to civil rights (and blatant civil rights abuses) has been the recent, overt pushback against neurodivergence or the LGBT+.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Seems that, but can be aimed at anyone different from what their herd considers normal too.

And the herd never barks at psychopaths, because it fears them. It's the non-predatory conditions that the herd openly hates.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

holy shit that's literally social darwinism. that's some nazi shit.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 13 points 21 hours ago

So they gonna set up radiation booths at rallies?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

The irony. I bet most MAGA have sub-median IQ. But apart from that:

That stance of mass-sterilization is quite a hefty turnaround from "people should have more children", which we heard just a few months ago.

I don't want to be a doomer, but the economic prospects are bad. Lots of people already struggle to make end's meet, and if the mass layoffs of white collar workers due to AI are real, it will be even worse. Notice that it doesn't matter whether you think that AI can replace people, it only matters whether companies think that AI can replace people. Now, having children costs a lot of money, at least $100K, depending on where you live, and i understand people being reluctant about having children.

I also think that it's politician's job to improve the living conditions of the people, and GOP might actually for once be doing its job if it starts educating people about the socio-economic implications of having kids.

I also advocate for UBI (universal basic income), but the way i see it today, there's a high likelyhood that it will come, but will be too little to actually cover cost-of-living costs. I.e., it might be a "support", providing $400/month no-strings-attached and it would definitely improve the living conditions of many people, especially in low-income households. But it would still not solve all problems.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Good, white people should have more children. Just like Lebensborn in Nazi Germany. And they also did this forced sterilization thing on "unworthy lifes".

[–] ubergeek 3 points 16 hours ago

As the contradictions grow with capitalism, they will fuel the revolutionary change of the proletariat...

https://sociology.institute/introduction-to-sociology/karl-marx-analysis-capitalism-historical-perspective/#the-contradictions-of-capitalism

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I don't want to appear snobbish, but if economic prospects are bad, then you need even more people. In economics scale makes everything better.

Basic food is, if we think about it, very cheap. Even the USSR managed to solve that problem. Everyone could find buckwheat\rice\some other grain\potatoes\vegetables to eat, salt sold for food was mandated to be iodized, for prevention of scurvy even on very basic diet, and some (bad, ugly, but edible) fish conserves were generally available everywhere, also "sea cabbage".

Depending on area there'd also be (bad, thin, kinda soup-only, not the broilers you're used to, though about USA I've read that food products quality is not nice generally) chicken, some fish, some meat. Some fruit, something else. The previous paragraph described the baseline that was always there.

So hunger is avoidable even if the economy sucks huge stinking donkey balls.

If hunger is avoidable, having more people is, of course, a disadvantage in terms of social conflicts, but they don't have to fear that - the most angry and dumb part of the population is voting for them.

Notice that it doesn’t matter whether you think that AI can replace people, it only matters whether companies think that AI can replace people. Now, having children costs a lot of money, at least $100K, depending on where you live, and i understand people being reluctant about having children.

There's a bit of tunnel vision here, I think. It costs that to have children in the USA, but in Mexico it'd be cheaper probably.

That's because value is created by labor, if your labor isn't needed and you don't have a job, then you'd still produce value if you had one. And when you can't afford something, that disadvantaged labor might produce it. OK, I'm a shitty explainer, what I mean is that, if there are no regulations directly preventing it, there's a feedback of creating another bucket of demand and thus jobs to fulfill it. Not an economist.

I also advocate for UBI (universal basic income), but the way i see it today, there’s a high likelyhood that it will come, but will be too little to actually cover cost-of-living costs. I.e., it might be a “support”, providing $400/month no-strings-attached and it would definitely improve the living conditions of many people, especially in low-income households. But it would still not solve all problems.

It might create hyperinflation, first and foremost affecting those owning money and not assets. And your average person is more dependent on money as opposed to assets than a businessman or a company or a fund. I'm not an economist, that's just how I see it.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 20 hours ago

The irony. I bet most MAGA have sub-median IQ.

Not all conservatives are stupid, they're too easy a pool to grift from but overwhelming, stupid people are conservative.

"I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. - John Stuart Mill

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

So they're clearing out the current administration?

[–] match@pawb.social 81 points 1 day ago (8 children)

One fucking month ago we, for the first time in human history, cured a genetic disease in a human at the DNA level, using gene editing techniques that fixed a 10-month-old's liver specifically without altering the rest of his body's DNA (thus preserving genetic diversity). Are we really going to start fucking genociding people while we stand at the very goddamn cusp of cleanly subduing genetic disorders?? And we're going to fucking revive measles and polio while we're at it?

[–] Frigid@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Frustrations aside, I hadn't heard of that but damn that's quite an awesome thing. Weird how you can have hope and despair for the future simultaneously.

[–] ubergeek 2 points 16 hours ago

And we’re going to fucking revive measles and polio while we’re at it?

Yep. Thats the US right now.

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[–] shaquilleoatmeal@lemm.ee 44 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Wait, wait, wait. I thought they were just bitching that we don’t have enough people, now they want mass sterilization? Can they make up their minds?

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 9 points 23 hours ago

Sounds like he needs to get sterilized by his own logic.

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