I'm pro bike and anti bike lane.
The entire street should be for bikes only
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I'm pro bike and anti bike lane.
The entire street should be for bikes only
You lie. That's how. They aren't pro bike they are just saying it to make their point
Some of them are against bike lanes because they say it gives drivers a false sense of entitlement and cyclists a false sense of security when they're supposed to be sharing the road.
That doesn't sound like this guy, though.
This is funny to me because the one time I was in NYC, the streets were empty but the sidewalks were congested as fuck.
Pro-life + anti-gun control = pro-birth.
Or in other words: He's pro after-birth abortions.
Birth them all; let school shooters sort them out
Got a friend this way. He hates bikes on the road. And yells to get on the greenways etc. Cause slow his lifted f150, that he needs to commute and get groceries, down for 30 seconds. The bike then get on the greenway and then he bitches they go too fast there.
Also he weighs about 300 lbs and doesn’t work out in any way.
Dave isn’t very bright
You all need to visit the Netherlands.
NL is flat, Switzerland's a much more convincing example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pWnreLG_cvc&t=837s&pp=ygUOY3ljbGluZyB6dXJpY2jSBwkJsAkBhyohjO8%3D
The cycling infrastructure in Switzerland is good, but the Netherlands are on a whole different level.
The video is ok, but contains incorrect information. Fines aren't scaled by income, they're fixed. Only for major infractions that go before a court of law is the penalty scaled.
Also, there is a shot from Bern saying "look people don't cycle when it's unsafe" but what is being shown is the roundabout of the motorway exit Ostring. No one cycles around that as there is no point. Cyclists would bypass that ugly sin from the 1970s.
It's also funny to hear Basel being called a small city, in Switzerland it's considered one of the biggest, like Genève, Zürich, Bern, Lausanne.
It’s also funny to hear Basel being called a small city
That’s kind of amusing to me as I was recently in an online debate about whether the state of New Hampshire could support passenger rail. It’s a rural state but the population centers you’d connect aren’t all the much smaller.
For posterity: yes it’s worthwhile. Normally (especially in the US) you’d think the population is too small, but
So MBTA could extend one of their lines, on existing track to capture thousands of additional car commuters literally ten miles to the border. And New Hampshire could get useful rail service by paying them to go an extra 70 miles. Zero infrastructure cost and NH doesn’t even have to figure out how to run a railroad
The town I grew up in has approx. 4000 inhabitants. It is served by a railway station with 4 trains per hour (one per direction every 30min), all day, from 05:00 to 24:00. On top of that it has four bus lines with frequencies between 30 and 10 minutes. It lies next to a medium sized (for Switzerland) city of 55k inhabitants, which has much much more public transport, like 20+ trains an hour in 6 directions and dozens of bus lines.
Just for comparison.
A 55k community in the USA would probably be considered a very small town, I guess. Not worthy of even a single railway line.
"it's simple math" - read about that expression on Facebook, never actually had math themselves as they were home schooled in creationism and flat earth.
Wtf even is simple-math? Arithmetic? Logic? The 2006 Kansas middle-school curricilum?
Bike lanes suck. Separated bike paths are much better. Or just streets without cars at all, no need for a bike lane if there are no cars.
In this paradise, where are the Rollerbladers?
Rollerblade lane.
Separate but equal. /s
4 wheels bad.
2 wheels good.
8 wheels, mmmm OK, over there please.
Nah nah nah, rollerblade path. No need for a rollerblade lane of there are no bikes.
In this paradise, where are the pogo sticks?
Next to the unicycle path.
I'm anti bike lane. Roads should be for bikes and pedestrians. Cars should get their own single separated lane on the occasional road.
Bike lanes are car infrastructure. They are not needed unless you consider the entire street to be for cars by default.
Also dave is an idiot. Maximum capacity would be a cycle and transit only street because those have the highest throughput per lane. Cars are incredibly space inefficient.
Relevant not just bikes about the streets in Tokyo that prioritise pedestrians: https://youtu.be/jlwQ2Y4By0U
Slight disagreement there. Streets are for pedestrians and bikes and trams and the occasional car (in a dedicated car lane). Roads (as in large arterial roads in very limited areas, meant for fast travel between faraway zones when trains are inconvenient, or highways between cities) can be considered as intended for cars, and even those should have pretty good space dedicated to bike lanes and pedestrian sidewalks.
Given that a car is a priviledge in most (all?) of the world, I'd argue there should be absolutely zero car-only infrastructure because it creates second class citizens for which some parts of the street are inaccesible.
Think of it this way, would you support the creation of a sidewalk in which only people who own a 50k ring can go?
They're still on xitter, and they paid for blue checks. Who cares what opinion they hold on literally anything?
please call it Twitter. just to piss elon off. Xitter sounds even worse than X honestly
I read it as "shitter" and it makes me chuckle. Is that not how you're supposed to say it?
Vehicular cyclists are the fucking worst. I find that they fall into two groups:
Either way they're almost 100% athletic white men who for some reason never picked up on the fact that cycling in a car culture is a near-perfect analogy / example of what it's like to be a marginalized minority and a first-hand demonstration of privilege. Instead they're defenders of the status quo - By way of their own athletic, gender, or monetary privilege - All the way to their bloody meat crayon deaths. They're that one asshole who shows up to the community board meeting about a new bike lane that will make cycling accessible for children, the elderly, and any person in between who is more risk-averse or less athletic than they are in order to speak against it "As a cyclist". Because to them battling for your life in traffic, being on the bleeding edge of death, breathing in truck exhaust from the shoulder of a stroad is a gatekeeping measure. They're masochistic elites, they rake pride in the danger that they put themselves in so much that they'd deny accessibility to anyone else unwilling to accept that danger.
Gordon Ramsey is an example of someone in the dentist group. A few years ago he very nearly got meat crayoned by a car while cycling in the US. He didn't provide the details of the crash but it was obvious from his injuries that he'd been hit from the side by a car or truck and likely went over the hood. His public plea in revealing this wasn't that the US needs to make roads safer for cyclists, or more accessible to people who don't have a group of equally wealthy friends to peloton around a foreign country with, maybe separating cars from cyclists so that the two may never conflict. His one and only adamant request was that we all wear a helmet. Cycling is wasted on these myopic asshats.
Oh bother, I've gone and ranted again.
Have you been outside of the first world recently? Here in Mexico, cyclists are mostly old people with backpacks filled with tools on their way to fix a sink.
No, but I'm speaking specifically about US culture. Sorry, I know this community is international and so I should have stated that.
Hell even where I am about 60% of cyclists are kids. This is some basic internet strawman if I've ever seen one.
Cause and effect. When you make cycling a challenge, the only cyclists will be the most radical/motivated. If we had the infrastructure to make cycling safe and easy, many more casual cyclists would exist. Europe proves that
“If you build it they will come”
As it is, building it doesn’t even work so well because we are so starved for opportunity that so many “bike paths” are overwhelmed by pedestrians that also never had options
Yup, it definitely has snowball potential in either direction. Build more infrastructure, incentivize more advocates. Build less infrastructure, incentivize more privileged subcultures.
Either way they're almost 100% athletic white men
Someone has never been to Europe.
I have though. Go on, I'm interested to hear about the demographic difference.
Oh, I was not referring to cyclists in general. I was referring specifically to cyclists who gatekeep access to cycling by restricting it's recognition to sport athletics only, or opposing cycling-specific infrastructure. Europe certainly does have a much higher percentage of daily cyclists than the US but that is not what I was talking about. Though since you have more women cyclists, I imagine some of them do inevitably behave in this way.
Ah. Yes. Gatekeepers of any sport are cunts. Only excusable when safety is involved.
Hey, i fall into the dentist group! But i totally advocate for bike lanes, and i'm not white...
There are dozens of us at the local critical mass ride!!! I make it a point to show up in my ridiculous spandex gear to show people the dentists aren't all assholes. Also, good spandex is really comfy.
Why the hate?? Yeah i sunk a lot of money into my hobby, but thats what people do. People spend tens of thousands on camera gear, gaming rigs, etc. Why hate on others' expensive hobbies?
I'm actually not that rich, but living car free and biking every day has allowed me to allocate a lot of money towards my hobbies. Cars are a total money sink... 10yrs ago it was around $6k/year TCO. I'm sure it's more now...
You should put an additional qualifier on your dentist description.... Carries their $20k bike on top of their $80k SUV. Drives 2 hours out of the city just to ride around for an hour...
I didn't say that all dentist-types are vehicular cyclists, just that all vehicular cyclists seem to fall into those two groups. One-way taxonomy. If you advocate for accessible bike infrastructure, good!
I'm actually white and male, myself. Fit, though I'd stop short of claiming athletic. But for me, taking up cycling was an eye-opening first hand example of disperate privilege. Both in how cycling is treated compared to driving, and how level of access to cycling itself changes depending on who you are. While I was already primed to understand social justice, cycling is a small way for white bros to really emphatically experience it along one vector, even if temporarily. Some of us gatekeep it as a result, but like you or I some of us use that experience as motivation for advocacy.
I’m stealing this.