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[–] BattleshipPokemon@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago

She mentions the small talk in the dog park since October 7. One day, the women there were friendly to her, and then one asked, "In what way would it be better wipe out Gaza – starvation or a nuclear bomb?"

Shira asks: "How can it be that this is a normal conversation in the street, and I'm considered strange?"

It'll never stop shocking me that the average israeli unironically just acts like this casually and its not even some sort of parody

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

She mentions the small talk in the dog park since October 7. One day, the women there were friendly to her, and then one asked, "In what way would it be better wipe out Gaza – starvation or a nuclear bomb?"

What the fuck

[–] jack@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It is interesting that most of the people in here cite the genocidal nature of the entity as the reason for wanting to leave. Any Israeli of conscience will inevitably cease to be either Israeli or of conscience. And for every one of them that leave, the entity will become more intensely fascistic and genocidal, further accelerating every contradiction that threatens the stability of the genocidal zionist project.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

almost like this colonialism thing robs the coloniser of their humanity as a necessary prequisite to the dehumanisation of the colonised, or something

[–] jack@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

England colonized itself first before it exported the process, refined and increasingly brutal, to the rest of the world - they still haven't managed to devastate the ecology of any nation quite like they did their own

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any Israeli of conscience will inevitably cease to be either Israeli or of conscience

Cop City meet Cop Country, your older brother.

[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Cop City meet Cop Country, your older brother.

Thats probably more true then you would like to hear.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 3 points 21 hours ago

un formidable choc en retour is a hallmark of imperialism.

I mean, anything I hear about either of tends to be more than I would like to hear but both continue to plague reality at the same time as my existence.

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just your average israelis interacting with one another. Gotta get their daily dose of hitler-detector.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

I like the people in the article who compare it to the Holocaust, except they think it's Israelis being genocided.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The thing that gets me is how far the dehumanisation has gone. They're talking casually about this like its weed wacking thats-why-im-confused

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Israeli government policy of bombing campaigns and raids on Gaza is referred to as "mowing the lawn".

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Thats just demonic

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

People don't even talk this casually about bugs or rodents in their houses

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

White Amerikkkans were and still are talking about nuking West Asia since 9/11

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I remember being in several groups. Or just several places. Americans talking about glassing the middle east and its a popular talking point

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 20 hours ago

They're evil pieces of shit, and it's normalized in other imperialist nations too.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago

Since 1979; apparently there was a popular saying in the Air Force that went:

spoilerNuke Iran and use their asses for runway lights

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Larry David would think you'd be going too far

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Antisemitism doesn't scare her; "they make more out of it than it is," she says. And for her, life is scarier here; after all, she lives in a house with no safe room. "During the sirens I worried that a wall might fall on me, and for months after October 7, I had nightmares about terrorists," she says.

What she's saying here is that if more civilian areas were hit then she'd leave.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Totally normal for every house to have a panic room in the event the occupied population rise up and kill their oppressors.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Hm... wasn't there a movie with similar concepts and ideas? Wasn't it called "the purge" or some shit?

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is it another instance of antisemitism on this site if I say a vast majority of Israelis are uniquely diseased and evil?

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's not unique, socialist theory gives us a deeper understanding than that. Any imperial country is just as bloodthirsty when it's interested are confronted, the Palestine situation is just an acute case.

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

just an acute case.

Thus the uniqueness. Nobody is saying cruelty is an inherent quality to Israelis.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago

All a matter of perspective, I suppose

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago

I'd say Israelis are about one-to-one with Pied Noirs, Belgians in the Congo or Nazis living at concentration camps

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

"Israel needs to exist as a safe place for Jews."

"So... you're going to create a colonial apartheid state?"

"Yes."

"You do realize that will inspire violent resistance and likely make the nation a pariah state that almost everyone besides the US views as hostile right?"

"Yes, but it will be safer for Jews!"

"Safer than Brooklyn?"

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 17 points 23 hours ago

40% of Israelis [sic] Say They Consider ~~returning the land they stole and fucking off in disgrace~~ Leaving the Country

Good, how about we get that up to 100%.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Ritualistic displays of psychopathy like this, are absolutely a sign of complete social and cultural collapse

If you twist your brain to think this shit about other people, you'll eventually apply the same logic to your in-group, generating witch-hunts, more scapegoats and more victims to justify the initial descent into barbarism, an ideology centered on death has no equilibrium

The single saving grace of fascism is the fact it is inherently self-destructive, fascists after a certain amount of time do not want to be around other fascists unless they themselves are in positions of power (in which case paranoia takes over) leading to similar results either way

These people destroyed themselves mentally and socially a long time ago, and unfortunately it's been the outside influence of US imperial power that has kept this abomination alive well past its due date

Tho American elites are playing a dangerous game by continuing to imbibe the corpse of a dead society, the poisonous ideology will make it's way back to the US and start generating the same self-destructive tendencies pulling the collapse date of the US closer to the present

[–] jack@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] miz@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A ONE WAY TICKET, PLEASE, I'VE LOST ME BUS PASS

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Case studies in cognitive dissonance. Riky Cohen's interesting, let's see what her poetry is like:

The Chinese neighbor invaded
The country of conquered dreams
At five in the morning
Muffled shouting in the parking lot
The slamming door of a diplomatic vehicle
And sleep is vanquished
Her foreign tongue mumbled me throughout the day
not softly
not softly
I am a nation of ambivalent feelings
And my mother tongue is disorder

dead-dove-3

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Poetry is supposed to express a lot with a little and this dumbass needed a dozen lines to say "I heard someone speak Chinese it was so scawy"

[–] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago

Well tbf it is saying a lot. Its screaming "I'm a racist I'm a racist" a million times over and over

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

There's a delightful little undergrad lecture in how to not write poetry buried in here. The rhythm (yes, you can have rhythm in free verse! It's okay! Strict adherence to meter isn't necessary but that doesn't mean one should simply chuck words in a blender!) is nonexistent; why are the dreams being invaded if they'd already been conquered; why the passive voice of "sleep is vanquished." Why the gerund "the slamming" when you could make it a straight onomatopoeia, why "the vehicle" when you could go simpler or more specific, either 'the car' or something about its make and model that signals that it's diplomatic? The diplomatic towncar's door slam // vanquishes sleep could probably do with some additional revision (by which I mean the whole poem should be tossed in the bin, but assuming we commit to trying to salvage it) but it's an improvement. There's some mystery in how the narrator would know it's a diplomatic vehicle given that she presumably is not fast asleep in the parking lot, but we can chalk that up to inference from another language being spoken or license.

How does one mumble not softly? "A nation of ambivalent feelings" is like an antimetaphor, it takes an idea and makes it less immediate and relatable. "My mother tongue is disorder" doesn't really seem to relate to the rest of the poem, which suggests that the disorder is being imposed by someone from outside your cultural context (Chinese/foreign tongue), so why is that your conclusion?

The more I look at it the more annoyed I get. You don't have to be a good person to write good poetry, but you do have to be an interesting person, or at absolute minimum a person who takes a keen interest and, if you aren't or don't, you get this drab and stilted style.