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None of this reflects my experience here. Are they visiting lemmy?
this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2025
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Where are they finding this love for Israel? Like, I haven't seen anything but hate for Israel, zionism, and the Palestinian genocide. The bots that try to counter this narrative get nowhere, or get removed... I don't even seen the conservative c/ praising Israel.
So bizarre that they start off with whining about Trump and Musk being criticised. One should have thought that that would be something a true communist could agree with.
They love both Trump and Musk
Lemmy world is defederated from hexbear, so this user has gone out of their way to use an alt to view posts from there. That's their problem.
The whole Israel tangent is bullshit anyway, I always see posts and comments critical of Israel for genocide across pretty much every instance.
The liberal strawman they have constructed defends Israel. And remember, much like the right, "liberal" is the most scathing insult they have. They genuinely can't fathom anyone being leftist and not a tankie.
They genuinely believe liberal is an insult rather than an ideology that they disagree with which is kind of weird.
this user has gone out of their way to use an alt to view posts from there
I mean, they mostly just made things up.
Absolutely unhinged and measurably false. Sure the second highest upvoted post over the last 12 hours is about genocide in Gaza.
I guess my Tianenmen onion ruffled some jimmies lol.
I really find it hard to understand how people get into this twisted mindset.
Edit: just reading the thread. Yikes.
I think feathers are ruffled but jimmies are rustled?
I think you might be right!
~my keyboard aint crusty, just a little dusty
but it got the rainbow-frill~
"Any rebuttal is shut down by these drones." Proceeds to complain that their whataboutism isn't respected as a valid "rebuttal".
I liked that bit, anytime I use whataboutism, I get called out for whataboutism
"Lemmy is more right wing than Reddit" — someone that hasn't browsed a country subreddit in years.
and commenting on an account in a instance, that justs the same side of the coin as right wingers. yes i know they "are ultra left or whatever that means" but they use alot of the same talking points as right wingers.
That's because they're Stalinists, and Stalinism is fascism cosplaying as communism.
Oh, they're mad as hell their echo chamber has lost its echo.
Also, our parliament has rules for a reason, and deliberately disrupting proceedings is a big deal for a very good reason. You break the rules, you get suspended.
Eh there's a difference giving the usual ritual slap on the wrist for a ritual stunt, as is done when parliamentarians hold up signs, come in with t-shirts with political slogans, or whatever, and suspending parliamentarians for unprecedented amounts of time on top of that timed such that they will miss the budget vote.
As such, broken clocks being right twice a day the tankie got it right in this instance, OTOH, if you look at the actual thread the comments they mention got their deserved pushback and (depending on level of ignorance of the poster) downvotes.
Apparently previous NZ precedent includes no suspension for driving a truck into parliament? Some Kiwi send me a link I want to see that.
Someone drove a land rover part way up the steps, it wasn't anything dramatic. I remember a similar stunt with a tractor as well.
Also, they didn't miss the budget vote, their suspension wasn't passed until after the budget was passed. They didn't say anything in the debate, and couldn't have stopped the budget from passing anyway.
The NZ Maori party favour theatrics over results, and have been like that for a long time.
Any opposition party "favours" theatrics. As in: They don't, they'd rather rule, but in lieu of enough votes theatrics is what they can use to get shit done.
It's when parties employ theatrics while in government that you should become suspicious.
yes, because they got defederated and cant"troll" on general lemmy instances, much like how conservatives in thier isolated echo chambers whine about the same thing.
"whataboutism is effective propaganda". No, it's a reminder to address the actual argument, not talk about America lynching negroes.
“whataboutism is effective propaganda”
I mean, it kinda makes sense for a tankie to be pushing Russian distraction techniques?
looks who in denial, when they called tianamen square AI slop. its odd to me they are anti-israeli, yet support governments that would be supporting genocide.
The pictures literally date back to then. That's so much denial.
the fuck did I just walk into
A bar. Why the long face..?
When u build a free decentralised platform u get real freedom. Lemmy has always been the true embodiment of the marketplace of ideas. They are only now realising it.
That's a stretch. There will always be overzealous mods who ban you for things you say on other instances. Personally I think they're doing me a favor.
Freedom includes running away from people that day things you don't like. Then blocking or banning you from an instance you don't care about is them running away
this is our lemmy now lol
I can imagine how the devs must be seething at the fact that the app they made, and let's be honest here, for the sole purpose of spreading propaganda, is slipping away from them.
I mean their 4th paragraph is valid. The rest though… yeesh
Edit: my reading comprehension sucks. I missed the very last sentence of it
I have never seen anyone positive of israel across all of lemmy
There's like a few individuals from .world, but overall i never seen a strong support of israel.
They have to create strawman when there is no one to argue with.
It's it though? I don't think I've ever seen pro-Israel sentiment anywhere on Lemmy.
I've only seen a small handful, and they usually get heavily downvoted and criticized. It's not the widespread support of Israel that tankies believe there is.
you might see some in the political communities.
Sure, but they're not positively received by most commentors from what I've seen.
Really? I don't have that experience, I mostly see news about israel once again murdering more civilians, journalists or aid workers. Never about all of Gaza being terrorists.