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What's your allowed weight fluctuation while maintaining? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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I've been maintaining my weight for a while now but lately it's been rising so I've adjusted calories accordingly, but I'm curious what you see as an acceptable "fluctuation" when you're maintaining?

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

A gallon of water weighs about 8lb, and that's the biggest swing I've seen in a day so that is my tolerance in the upward direction. Downward I don't worry about now because I weigh more than I want to but when I was skinny my downward tolerance was a line not a difference from what I weighed , so- I'm 5'9" and now maintaining 150 when I'd rather be 140lb, 158 is startling but if it goes away the next day or two I know it was water retention for muscle repair, and I don't worry about weight loss; when I was stressed and 122lb I was very careful about weight loss because 120 is my hard line, and did not worry about weight gain.

So 8 lb in the up, I will watch that but not freak out immediately.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My perspective is a bit skewed. I don't want to maintain. I want to lose weight. Actually, I should rephrase that. I AM losing weight. 330 at my heaviest. 243 as of this morning. I don't have a final goal. I'm going to keep losing weight until I don't feel like a fat piece of shit.

I set little goals. I WILL hit 240. And when I hit 240, I'll aim for 230. And when I hit 230, I'll aim for 220. You see where this is headed. Eventually I'll be 0 pounds, and start becoming negative weight, where my presence becomes anti-matter, and I become a fascination to scientists around the world!!!

Actually I never thought about it. I never thought what weight I should stop at. It's not 243 though. I still have a belly.

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Haha, keep up the fight! Sounds like you're on good way to becoming anti-matter

[–] Outwit1294 2 points 2 days ago

This is a good approach which I have used in the past. But it is a good idea to pick a target because motivation is lost when the loss slows down.

[–] Outwit1294 4 points 2 days ago

+/-1%.

To be noted that I check my weight daily and use 1% as a warning sign that things might not be at maintenance. When it crosses 1.5-2%, I definitely know and take action.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

About 6 lbs.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If your food is clean, and without sugar and carbohydrates, then let the body self regulate.

If your goal is to maintain muscle mass then you need exercise.

If your goal is to avoid excess fat, then don't eat carbs and you won't have to track your weight at all

[–] Outwit1294 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sugar is bad but carbs are not bad as a whole. They are needed for daily functions and exercise.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Carbs can fit into someones health plan, sure, but the people eating low/no carb diets don't have to worry about gaining excess fat even if they dont count calories.

[–] Outwit1294 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is not how calories work. Everything has calories - fat, protein, carbs. If you eat more calories than you can burn, you will gain weight in the form of fat or muscle (if you exercise).

Restricting carbs might help you in eating less overall but not eating carbs is not the cause of your weight loss.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sadly calories are a useful lie, but not actually how the body works. Calories are how much energy is released in a tiny oven. The human body does not necessarily use everything that has a calorie attached to it.

With carbs, that drive blood glucose, and that drive insulin, eating anything will be used for anabolism (that is what insulin does)

Without carbs, over-eating fat or protein is very difficult - the body will simply be full. This is how people can say you don't have to count calories (useful lie) when eating a low carbohydrate diet. Not eating carbs lets your body function properly, including hunger and satisfaction signals.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is truth in that protein has an important role in hunger signaling, but it's not being well supported by the other claims you're making.

over-eating fat or protein is very difficult - the body will simply be full

Fats are very easy to overeat though. I can chug a cup of olive oil in less than a minute and instantly meet my daily energy expenditure. I've never tried this myself because I would miss out on a lot of other nutrients, but I imagine I would be hungry again pretty soon afterwards.

With carbs, that drive blood glucose, and that drive insulin, eating anything will be used for anabolism (that is what insulin does)

Your body does a lot more with its energy than building new molecules. For example, ATP powers the movement of your muscles. So you could either consider ATP synthesis as anabolism, making this claim a non-sequitur (i.e. how does saying "carbs can be used to move muscle" support the claim of "low carbs will help you lose fat"?), or it's not anabolism, in which case you're just plain wrong.

Sadly calories are a useful lie, but not actually how the body works. Calories are how much energy is released in a tiny oven. The human body does not necessarily use everything that has a calorie attached to it.

No, we don't use everything. But it is a useful way of measuring what we do use for the purposes of weight control. It's trivial to verify for yourself. Just count the Calories in everything you eat and see that your weight gains and losses are very closely tied to that number. So it is indeed a "lie" in that sense that the number you see probably isn't actually what your body is burning, and "useful" in the sense that it will tell you whether you'll gain or lose weight. I assume that's how you got to calling it a "useful lie". I just don't see how that justifies your stance that no one should have to count Calories.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’ve never tried this myself because I would miss out on a lot of other nutrients, but I imagine I would be hungry again pretty soon afterwards.

This has not been my experience. People doing keto are often suggested to eat butter as a snack to differentiate between hunger and cravings.

Fats are very easy to overeat though.

Only in the context of carbohydrates. Try eating a stick of butter after you are full. Consider a steak, which is just fat and protein... it starts delicious and wonderful, but quite rapidly it loses its luster and by the end eating the last few pieces can be quite a chore... this is how all food should be, and it can be, in the absence of carbohydrates.

So you could either consider ATP synthesis as anabolism, making this claim a non-sequitur (i.e. how does saying “carbs can be used to move muscle” support the claim of “low carbs will help you lose fat”?), or it’s not anabolism, in which case you’re just plain wrong.

Insulin drives fat storage, eating while insulin is high will encourage significant fat accretion.

But it is a useful way of measuring what we do use for the purposes of weight control. It’s trivial to verify for yourself. Just count the Calories in everything you eat and see that your weight gains and losses are very closely tied to that number.

Agreed, its strictly true. But its not clinically helpful. Controlling hunger via reducing insulin and eating protein and fat to satiety is far more clinically effective.

justifies your stance that no one should have to count Calories.

People can count calories and see success, but its unnecessary if they are not eating carbohydrates - as the body will self regulate appropriately with hunger and satiety signals. You can eat a gram of uranium, and get millions of calories, but its not useful to the body. We are not bomb calorimeters.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I guess I can't really contest it if you say a cup of olive oil would keep you full. That's not something I'm willing to try for myself. I'm curious about this butter trick you mention though. I can't find anything about it.

Consider a steak, which is just fat and protein… it starts delicious and wonderful, but quite rapidly it loses its luster and by the end eating the last few pieces can be quite a chore… this is how all food should be, and it can be, in the absence of carbohydrates.

My stomach capacity for a good steak or plain rice is approximately the same for both as measured by Calorie content. Though, combing both does allow me to eat more in total, so I guess maybe that's what you're trying to say. In any case, I'm not saying you're wrong on this point. My criticism was about your comment consisting of a bunch of disjoint statements under the guise of being supporting sentences.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 11 hours ago

I can't really contest it if you say a cup of olive oil would keep you full.

I'm not saying that. I really don't recommend drinking olive oil as food. Fat and protein should be consumed in a solid form

The butter trick is easy to test, next time your hungry just "think" about eating a bit of butter - does it sound like a good idea? If yes, your hungry. If no, your craving something like carbs or sugar.

My criticism was about your comment consisting of a bunch of disjoint statements under the guise of being supporting sentences.

I'll work on improving my use of English.