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The only activity on that instance is the admin, the nazi and hexbears.

No, because reform and opening up must continue.

Dont infringe on our right to bully fascists.

If an instance is making it more difficult to maintain a safe space for marginalized people on hexbear, that's when it needs to be axed. But it seems to me that a lot of these "yes, defederate!" arguments are more just about how obviously wrong and bad the mods and admins of these other instances are. And yes, they are wrong and bad, they're fucking disgusting. But by cutting ourselves off from ever being able to even see the shit they post, are we helping hexbear be a better place, or are we only making it so our correct analyses and perspectives are seen by even fewer people (including lurkers and potential comrades on the sidelines)? I'm not saying I have the answer to that question, I do lean more towards it being the latter, but maybe I'm wrong.

The most interesting threads to me are often the ones where hexbears, lemmygraders, and some .ml's are schooling the libs and tearing down the fash. When we defederate from the instances where said libs and fash think they won't get any pushback, we not only make it so those threads don't happen for us anymore (and I respect those who prefer that, dgmw), it also makes it so all that disgusting shit goes more unopposed on the rest of the "lemmyverse." It also makes it so our comrades on .ml, those who do speak up to counter the lies, are more likely to get dogpiled into silence without hexbears even knowing, let alone being able to come to their aid in the posting trenches.

It looks like this is already a landslide for "yes" but I still just have to say that I feel like by doing that we're just making it easier for them and (while it might seem parodoxical) worse in the long run for us, for reasons similar to what others like @Babs@hexbear.net and @SevenSkalls@hexbear.net already said elsewhere in this thread.

Who needs Europe when Indonesia exists

Additionally, the main perpetrator has been promoted to moderator on the Poland@europe.pub comm where they consistently post pro-ukrainian-nazi propaganda and wish death upon the Russian people.

The real fucked up thing is being a mod of a Polish comm while denying war crimes perpetuated against Polish people. This is how far gone the admins are in "sticking it to Putler."

I don't have strong feelings either way. They'll probably defed from us on their own eventually.

so we can free the brainwashed people who claim to be Santa's elves in the land of the North Poles.

Reverse this vote if the users in question are causing material harm to Hexbears

These are the 11 people at the table seated around the nazi letting them talk and hanging on to every word.

Yes, I'd let transfem.social admins to check the europe.pub content before deciding to defederate

how do we bully them if we defed

I don't care either way, never remember interacting with them. But I do love a close race, give my vote to the losing side please.

lol, this fucking person even came over here to defend her favorite nazi collaborators. https://hexbear.net/comment/6220999

The admin also basically admitted they made her a mod to troll people who didn't like fascist rhetoric.

europe.ppb

No.

I always learn something whenever we bully people and the folks here bring out their paragraphs of sources.

Nie mam siły patrzeć na takich kompletnych debili, weźcie się kurwa pozbądźcie ich żebym mógł znowu lurkować w spokoju. Nie mam jakiegokolwiek zamiaru widzieć takiego gówna sortując po

A poza tym kim ona jest, żeby zarządzać społeczność o Polsce? Czy ona nawet umię gram polskiego? Czy jest zaznajomina z naszą kulturą (lub jej brakiem lol), realiami politycznimi i ten teges? Jakby z takim podejściem do Rosji to pasowała by w sam raz do naszych libków ale chuj, tylko tyle ją łączy na pierwszy rzut oka. Jakby też, co to kurwa za posty, powinna pisać w społeczności ukraińskiej czy coś.

Ingles?

Nie chcę mi się kurwa, poradzisz se. Mądra z ciebie morda.

Make them defederate so they can remain Nazis. The only reason to cut contact should be to protect users and in the words of the bard: “cyber bullying isn’t real!”

that nitwit ukrainian nazi/ukrainian nazi apologist came on the news comm recently and she was apparently a mod there? they're not sending their best, folks.

I guess I'll be an enlightened, radical centrist and abstain.

I'm cool with defederating them, but also think it would be fine to stay federated with them and PPB them until they defederate with us, which is probably inevitable. Either way, fuck those Nazis.

We struggle less among ourselves when there is some chum in the water. Bully the Banderites until they cut us off.

🇷🇴 uhhh I have no horse in the race but from my time here I think Eastern Europeans are pretty chill. It’s probably better to have some dissenting voices in that echo chamber rather than letting them fall into a solipsistic nightmare?

I wish all nazi collaborators a very nice defed immediately

EU libs getting cozy with fascists as a 'joke'

Yes, I do believe that Moscow must be destroyed, thats why my advice to all people - run away from Moscow) Destruction of Moscow is not "calling for genocide of entire ethnic group", you are misleading readers and slandering me.

Photos are very easy to fake. Can you distinguish Ukrainian from a Russian? These are ordinary Russian fakes and are not evidence at all. Back in the early 20th century, Russians dressed up as Ukrainian defenders (UPA) and committed crimes in order to accuse Ukrainians. I asked you specifically because there are certain features by which you can determine what Nazism is. Can you name them? And then what force is the opposite of Nazism. It seems like a simple question.

Absolutely. Because Polish politicians use Volyn tragedy to manipulate minds of Poles. And I believe it is unfair to accuse Ukraine and Ukrainians in crimes made by Soviet regime. Why do Polish politicians do not talk about crimes of Moscow in Poland? Obviously Polish politicians are working in interests of russia... Poland has a good tradition when their goverment betrays them...

It is unfair when Ukraine and Ukrainians are accused in crimes made by Moscow regime. OUN and UPA in case you do not know were fighting against soviet nazi from one side and against german nazi from other side. But 'winner writes history' and the winner was USSR. Polish people you should understand one thing, Ukraine will fight for you if your country will be attacked by russia. It is the most important that you should know.

This is hateful antiukrainian speech aimed to destroy relations between Ukraine and Poland, to get the support of the Poles in the future actions of the government in order to prevent the victory of Ukraine, as well as to prevent the restoration of the Commonwealth. This is a primitive post, you will not succeed, you will pay for all your crimes, you will pay with own territories. MOSCOW MUST BE DESTROYED!

Is it antirussian to blame Ukraine and Ukrainians in crimes made by Moscow regime?) Either you support Kyiv or Moscow. Poland, Belorus without Ukraine are unable to defend themselves. Did polish people forget how they occupied Moscow under leadership of Ukrainian hetman Sahaidachny and polish king Vladyslav?

Very weird poster. It's also odd that Ukraine is taking credit for atrocities apparently perpetrated by the Soviet Union? I wonder why they made this one month old account a mod. Also a very poor understanding of history.

Very

Also does anyone know about feddit.uk's apparent refederation? Did they walk back their transphobia?

I have no idea what this discourse is about, but any opportunity to have fewer white Europeans interacting with us on a daily basis is objectively a win.

these are insane takes, but I don't think we should defed since they aren't attacking hexies or whatever

I don't think I've ever seen an @europe.pub user here having good opinions, like I fairly frequently do with @lemmy.db0.com users, for example.