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[โ€“] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

stop promoting brave. oh my god it's 2025 how good is their propaganda... they were never cool.

[โ€“] DigitalMus@feddit.dk 6 points 10 hours ago

Not a search engine, but last week I learned of the European Open Websearch project, which builds a new free and open search index. It should already be ready to try out. Hopefully we will see some search engines implementing this soon.

[โ€“] rfr_Foglia@feddit.it 4 points 9 hours ago

Can't wait to get some news about Qwant and Ecosia new index

[โ€“] Tenderizer@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

I really wish Kagi wasn't American. Kagi is such a good product, and I'd be willing to pay for it, but in no universe am I willing to pump more money into silicon valley.

[โ€“] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I really wish Qwant would add the ability for me to Seach "1 eur to usd" and just get the results.

Along with "tsla" and "23 *3" and just get results.

[โ€“] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Whats the last one?

[โ€“] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Daily reminder that

  • Brave's CEO donates to homophobic organizations and
  • Brave is connected to the BAT pay-to-surf scam

Don't use Brave.

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago (4 children)
  • Brave is based on Chromium and therefore helps contribute to Google having hegemony over web standards.

Always use a Firefox-based browser, even if you think Mozilla sucks.

[โ€“] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What about on iOS where it's all forced WebKit?

Ideally don't use iOS it's a walled garden, you don't really control your device

[โ€“] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago

At least until Ladybird is ready. I hope they are not under too much pressure to rush things so we get a truly independent web browser.

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[โ€“] Zwiebel@feddit.org 9 points 22 hours ago

Also reminder that StartPage is majority-owned by American ad company Sytem1

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup! It is noted in the highlighted text in red. I've had several people respond that they didn't know about it, and would be making the switch away :)

[โ€“] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never had a good feeling about that one.

[โ€“] blazeknave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a shitty "secure" browser to begin with imho

[โ€“] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I'm waiting for Servo (I know it's not a browser) & LadyBird.

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago

I recommend Ecosia!

[โ€“] Zwiebel@feddit.org 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There are more open source engines:

Stract

Mwmbl

[โ€“] wakest@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

Stract is impressive I don't know what more people don't know about it

[โ€“] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish Kagi was not American. I was pretty happy with it until America became a thread

[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Me too. Kagi is the best of them all, including Google.

The only downside? It's an American company.

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[โ€“] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're basically all compromised in one way or another. ๐Ÿ˜ž

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

For Search, it is about finding the least bad option and hope that they will become more independent. Mojeek (fully independent but poor quality) or Qwant (building own index, but dependent on Bing)

[โ€“] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago

Worth noting about Startpage: they're part of System1, an American advertising/marketing company. Sytem1 claims that privacy is one of the biggest focuses though. Make of that what you will.

[โ€“] unwillingsomnambulist@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For now Iโ€™ll stick with SearXNG, itโ€™s among the first things I get up and running when I distro hop, but Iโ€™m glad there are other non-US options to try.

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[โ€“] tyler@programming.dev 5 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Very strange to put Kagi as โ€œless privateโ€ when itโ€™s the only non-self-hosted option that allows for completely private searches with their Privacy Pass tokens. You can access them with Tor, pay with crypto (not really that private though), and sign up with a fake email. https://kagi.com/privacy#anonymity

[โ€“] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It isn't marked as less private. It is grayed out because it is not based in Europe. I personally use them as I find them the best option with what is out there.

[โ€“] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The text at the bottom says โ€œkagi doesnโ€™t collect any identifying data, but does require an account, so it is considered less private than the alternativesโ€.

[โ€“] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

I think that's Walnut's nod to the fact that PrivacyGuides still hasn't wrapped their head around the concept of paid search.

I haven't seen any legitimate evidence that Kagi's Privacy Pass is any less private than any other search option on the market, but long ago PG defined private search as "not requiring an account" and are completely locked up on that concept.

Even though just about every VPN on the planet (and all of their recommended ones) require accounts, as do most of the other services they recommend. The world is just so used to "free" search (which just sells your data or your time) that they don't know what to do with a new business model.

[โ€“] Tenderizer@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

With fingerprinting and even just IP tracking, I think the question is more whether they can be trusted to not track you (i.e. whether it makes business sense).

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[โ€“] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Pretty weak chart to not even include "I care most about porn search"

[โ€“] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yacy. Self hosted p2p ( or local only ) search engine. Crawl the Web yourself.

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